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6.165 Making Charge Moves contradicts 6.166 CounterCharge, P

 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2002 6:12 am    Post subject: 6.165 Making Charge Moves contradicts 6.166 CounterCharge, P


Just finished reading Warrior and it is a great job of making 7th
understandable. An Index to the location of various phrases & terms
would help, to eliminate flipping thru the book to find those things
that don't come up often enough to really remember where they are.
Following is the only major item that seems to me to be an error.

6.165 Making Charge Moves contradicts 6.166 CounterCharge "Pro Rating"

As I recall 7th ed., units approaching each other who have different
movement rates would pro-rate their distances to determine the point
at which they collided. I presume that Warrior intends this as well.
Indeed, I find two Examples where the phrase "pro rate" is used.
However, in both instances the rule itself says otherwise.

I'm not cackling with glee here, but "the rules say" there is no
pro-rating of movement in Warrior. In the cases of bodies who are
mutally charging or charging and countercharging, they wheel until
parallel and then move equal distances to meet at the mid-point; even
if one of them must exceed its Basic Tactical Move Distance to get
there.

On pg 44, the example Counter Charge says that "both units PRORATE
(sic) their charge movement..." But 6.165 Making Charge Moves states
"first make any wheels and then SPLIT THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THEM until
contact is made."

In 6.2 Marches, the rule says "move equal distances" but the example
again says "pro rated."

I pre-apologize for the pedantic nature of the following but I wanted
to cover all the bases...

The concept of & a mechanism for PRO RATING are not actually in the
rules. I don't think it is a wargaming 'meta concept' that can go
unexplained.

In fact, on the basis of pg 44 "...a counter charge must abide by all
the same rules as a charge..." the example contradicts 6.165 Making
Charge Moves which states "first make any wheels and then split the
distance between them until contact is made."

A Rule trumps an Example.

"Split the distance" (rule) is entirely different than "pro rate" (example).

The clause "until contact is made" is redundant because the subject
of the sentence is the method of making contact. The simple sentence
"split the distance between them" makes sense & thus is the best
grammatically correct interpretation of the sentence. It is also
consistant with 6.2 Marches.

One might argue that the qualification "until contact is made"
renders the sentence at 6.165 synonymous with "pro rate" but it is a
very weak argument. The reader at 6.165 cannot be expected to divine
that such a poor sentence was deliberately chosen for versimilitude,
in order to create a stylistic synonym for the phrase "pro rate" used
only twice, in passing, in much later examples (not even a rule).

What happens if one of the bodies would need to exceed its Basic
Tactical Move Distance to meet in the middle? Perhaps the unit would
stop, since "Most moves can be made only up to a fixed distance..."
(6.0) and _mutual_ charges/countercharges are not on the list of
Variable Moves (6.112). But 6.0 leaves itself open to exceptions by
using "most," which is not an imperative vs 6.165 which imperatively
specifies "split the difference." So I think it must exceed its move
distance distance if necessary in order to reach the mid point.
--

Doug
The price of freedom is infernal vigilantes

"The tyranny of the legislatures is the most formidable dread at
present, and will be for long years. That of the executive will come
in it's turn, but it will be at a remote period." James Madison, 15
March 1798 (_Papers of J.M._ vol 12, p.14; LC call no. JK.111.M24)

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