Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[joncleaves]

Boyd
Answers below. I was in Maryland on business and so apparently did not
answer fast enough for you. Please forward to me the email address(es) of
the more
responsive game designers you are used to working with so I can write them
and gain insight into how they are able to answer your rules questions to
other systems so lightning quick. :)

Kudos to Chris Damour for remembering that it is really better to just have
me do it as I definitely do *not* have time or desire to go back through a
thread of rules questions
to sort out what a player might have gotten wrong.

Kudos to Scott for remembering that I'm the rules horse this time. He is
also correct in the opinion that a read of the rulebook would have worked
wonders here. :)

<< I'm trying to remember enough 7th >>

7th what? :)

<< 1. If my crusade pesants are front rank IrrgA and back three ranks
IrrD, then it is a body that is always eagar and must charge if shot
for 2 CPF, yet waver tests as D in order to charge? >>

A class troops in a front rank make a body never uneasy (5.13), which is even
better than eager. If these peasants are LMI (loose order), then yes, 2 CPF
from prep shooting would cause them to charge or waver (11.1). They waver as
D's, but do not have to take a waver to charge as 1.they would have to be
entirely D or partly E (5.52) and 2. that waver is only if D/Es are prompted
to charge and the charge from prepshooting casualties is unprompted.

<<2. If so, does the unit charge shaken if the waver test fails? Or
does it cancel the charge?>>

A shaken unit cannot charge, it would be cancelled.

<< 3. If my English marine LHI have a B and the rear rank also has JLS,
does the JLS factor in if the unit has been charged?>>

Yes.

<<4. Why do friendly bodies within 240 of the rear of an elephant make
it supported?>>

Because 5.131 says so. Don't have time for 'designer's notes' at the
moment.

<< Wouldn't support for E be from units within 80p to flank?>>

Support is not based on morale class. There is no 80p support range for
anyone in Warrior. I'll quote 5.131 here:

5.131 Support:
• Light infantry and elephants are supported if there is a steady friendly
body within 240 paces and directly to their rear.
• Close or loose order foot (not in orb, 6.44) are supported if each flank
has either: steady close or loose order friendly body within 120 paces.
very rough area (6.71) not known (1.26) to be occupied by enemy or shoreline
within 40 paces.
• Other troops (including those in orb, 6.44) are supported if there is a
steady friendly body anywhere within 240 paces.

<< 5.If my unit of RgC HI P are disordered from shooting, then are again
forced to recoil in HTH, but do not have sufficient room, are then
then to waver for not being able to disorder again?>>

You said you found this one, but the answer is yes.

<<6. A unit of 32 HI LTS/Sh is standing with a Wood 40p from it's left
flank and a unit of 6 HC L/sh within 40p of its right flank. Is it
supported?>>

Yes, if the HC are steady.

<< What about when the HC charges ahead and routs an enemy
within 240p to front, and the HI in in combat with another unit to
front?>>

If the HC are more than 120p from the flank of the HI, the HI is unsupported.

Jon

--- JonCleaves@... wrote:
> Boyd
> Answers below. I was in Maryland on business and so
> apparently did not
> answer fast enough for you. Please forward to me
> the email address(es) of
> the more
> responsive game designers you are used to working
> with so I can write them
> and gain insight into how they are able to answer
> your rules questions to
> other systems so lightning quick. :)

Hey this is the world that McDonalds built, so
everyone expects to drive up and be served :]

Seriouly, My expectations were due to other lists I'm
on where everyone offers an opinion on anything,
reguardless of relevance. My bad, I've been away on
active duty and forgot the more subdued and scholarly
tone of this list. I will endeavor to be more
studious.

> 7th what? :)

err, donno.

> Because 5.131 says so. Don't have time for
> 'designer's notes' at the
> moment.

It was just curiosity, sorry. I'll sit down now.

>
> << Wouldn't support for E be from units within 80p
> to flank?>>
>
> Support is not based on morale class. There is no
> 80p support range for
> anyone in Warrior. I'll quote 5.131 here:

The E was supposed to be EL, sorry.

> 5.131 Support:
> • Light infantry and elephants are supported if
> there is a steady friendly
> body within 240 paces and directly to their rear.

This I've read in the rules, but was wondering what
about El changed. I haven't played El since 1990. I
thought they used to be supported from the flanks like
infantry. Perhaps I don't remember enough. Elephants
to my front would make me uneasy, given the routing
effects of El. I'll ponder this as I consume rum next
weekend.

> << What about when the HC charges ahead and routs
> an enemy
> within 240p to front, and the HI in in combat with
> another unit to
> front?>>
>
> If the HC are more than 120p from the flank of the
> HI, the HI is unsupported.

Ok, doesn't the routing enemy (assume the HC are
following a routing enemy element ouside of 120 but
within 240 to the front of the HI) create eagarness
thus cancelling the effect of non-support--which was a
cause for willingness. This is a key question for me,
as I will be running, for the foreseeable future, an
army of HC and HI with equal parts each.

Jon, I thank you for your patience and benevolence in
dealing with a upstart peasant who does not know his
place.

boyd


>
> Jon
>


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[joncleaves]

<<Hey this is the world that McDonalds built, so
everyone expects to drive up and be served :]>>

Ain't that the truth, brother.

<<Seriouly, My expectations were due to other lists I'm
on where everyone offers an opinion on anything,
reguardless of relevance. My bad, I've been away on
active duty and forgot the more subdued and scholarly
tone of this list. I will endeavor to be more
studious.>>

Well, don't go out of your way...
Seriously, based on my experience on this and other lists, I am concerned about
player's answering a rules question off the cuff and getting it wrong. That
usually generates two or more emails for me to respond to, rather than just the
one. It's bad enough when *I* do it and screw it up.... :)


<<> 5.131 Support:
> • Light infantry and elephants are supported if
> there is a steady friendly
> body within 240 paces and directly to their rear.

This I've read in the rules, but was wondering what
about El changed. I haven't played El since 1990. I
thought they used to be supported from the flanks like
infantry.>>

WRG 7th (that other game...) and Warrior have exactly the same Elephant support
rule. Amazing coincidence.....


<<> If the HC are more than 120p from the flank of the
> HI, the HI is unsupported.

Ok, doesn't the routing enemy (assume the HC are
following a routing enemy element ouside of 120 but
within 240 to the front of the HI) create eagarness
thus cancelling the effect of non-support--which was a
cause for willingness.>>

Sure. I said they were unsupported, not necessarily uneasy.

<<Jon, I thank you for your patience and benevolence in
dealing with a upstart peasant who does not know his
place.>>

Boyd, for you man, anything. :)

Jon