Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[Ewan McNay]

Y'know, this question gets asked a lot when it's totally irrelevant.
Sure, my chances of beating you with you using <killer army X> are much
larger than my chances of beatig Dave M using Early Mound Builder. But my
chances of beating Dave are significantly enhanced if he chooses to use
EMB vs. Alexandrian Imperial. Is any of that other than obvious?

Todd Schneider wrote:

> If thatwere true everyone would be playing Mongols...
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> With all the whinging going on about these rules, it's
> still the person pushing the figs thathas to make them
> work.
>
> Serioulsy, in an open competition, who would you
> rather face, Me with Alexandrian Imperial, or someone
> like Dave Markowitz or Dave Stiers with, say,
> Thracians?
>
> Todd
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> --- darnd022263@... wrote:
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>>Well, special list rules seem to be the thing now.
>>So make the LAP play
>>historically correct and give them about 5000
>>points.
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>>Derekcus
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[Todd Schneider]

Well, honestly, I am not sure.

Are you saying that your more worried about the army
on the table than the guy playing it?

Or that Players of my caliber (which is OK but by no
means great), are somehow automatically better if we
use a list with good list rules (such as Alex.
Imperial)?

If it were irrelevant, wouldn't every player out there
be playing a list that had special rules?

Honestly, the chances of you beating me with
Seleucid's are pretty good no matter what list I
choose to run against you, right? You're a much
better player than I am, with a better knowledge of
the game and how it works. If I chose to run Alex.
Imperial Against you, would my chances of winning be
that much greater simply because of the list?

I don't believe so, at least not until I get better at
the game.

Todd


--- Ewan McNay <ewan.mcnay@...> wrote:

> Y'know, this question gets asked a lot when it's
> totally irrelevant.
> Sure, my chances of beating you with you using
> <killer army X> are much
> larger than my chances of beatig Dave M using Early
> Mound Builder. But my
> chances of beating Dave are significantly enhanced
> if he chooses to use
> EMB vs. Alexandrian Imperial. Is any of that other
> than obvious?
>
> Todd Schneider wrote:
>
> > If thatwere true everyone would be playing
> Mongols...
> >
> > With all the whinging going on about these rules,
> it's
> > still the person pushing the figs thathas to make
> them
> > work.
> >
> > Serioulsy, in an open competition, who would you
> > rather face, Me with Alexandrian Imperial, or
> someone
> > like Dave Markowitz or Dave Stiers with, say,
> > Thracians?
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > --- darnd022263@... wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Well, special list rules seem to be the thing now.
> >>So make the LAP play
> >>historically correct and give them about 5000
> >>points.
> >>
> >>Derekcus
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[Ewan McNay]

Well - you can choose not to believe so, of course; but the answers to
your questions are no (but both); yes; no; yes, and yes.

Todd Schneider wrote:

> Well, honestly, I am not sure.
>
> Are you saying that your more worried about the army
> on the table than the guy playing it?
>
> Or that Players of my caliber (which is OK but by no
> means great), are somehow automatically better if we
> use a list with good list rules (such as Alex.
> Imperial)?
>
> If it were irrelevant, wouldn't every player out there
> be playing a list that had special rules?
>
> Honestly, the chances of you beating me with
> Seleucid's are pretty good no matter what list I
> choose to run against you, right? You're a much
> better player than I am, with a better knowledge of
> the game and how it works. If I chose to run Alex.
> Imperial Against you, would my chances of winning be
> that much greater simply because of the list?
>
> I don't believe so, at least not until I get better at
> the game.
>
> Todd
>
>
> --- Ewan McNay <ewan.mcnay@...> wrote:
>
>
>>Y'know, this question gets asked a lot when it's
>>totally irrelevant.
>>Sure, my chances of beating you with you using
>><killer army X> are much
>>larger than my chances of beatig Dave M using Early
>>Mound Builder. But my
>>chances of beating Dave are significantly enhanced
>>if he chooses to use
>>EMB vs. Alexandrian Imperial. Is any of that other
>>than obvious?
>>
>>Todd Schneider wrote:
>>
>>
>>>If thatwere true everyone would be playing
>>
>>Mongols...
>>
>>>With all the whinging going on about these rules,
>>
>>it's
>>
>>>still the person pushing the figs thathas to make
>>
>>them
>>
>>>work.
>>>
>>>Serioulsy, in an open competition, who would you
>>>rather face, Me with Alexandrian Imperial, or
>>
>>someone
>>
>>>like Dave Markowitz or Dave Stiers with, say,
>>>Thracians?
>>>
>>>Todd
>>>
>>>--- darnd022263@... wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Well, special list rules seem to be the thing now.
>>>>So make the LAP play
>>>>historically correct and give them about 5000
>>>>points.
>>>>
>>>>Derekcus
>>>>
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>>>>removed]
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[Craig Scott]

Hi Derek,

"You take the cake", LOL! Can I, ah we have gold Darics to bribe
part of my opponent's army away too? (o: Be well all.

Craig


--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, darnd022263@a... wrote:
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> Well, special list rules seem to be the thing now. So make the LAP
play
> historically correct and give them about 5000 points.
>
> Derekcus
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[Craig Scott]

Hello Matt,

Thank you for your very kind remarks (o:

Craig
--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "dragonsmogg" <mkollmer@v...>
wrote:
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> Hey Noel
> I think the strenght of the Persians is in their diversity others
> have pointed out. They do have the troops to face all others if
you
> run them right in combined arms. My first thought was to do what
> Frank said and run the Cav in bigger units. Which is one thing
I've
> done(but never actually having the Balls to field them myself! One
> thing that impressed me fighting Greig Scott at Historicon(right
> after fighting you AND besides how rediculously beautiful they
are!)
> was how they approached in a long single line exposing NO flanks
> using sythed chariots in closed ranks with LI LMI HC an EHC. I was
> never able to contact were I would like to, and also unable to
avoid
> contact were I'd like too.
> Missle fire played alot in the battle too. The Persians can be
quite
> formidable in their numbers. Play the Chariots close to the
> battleline and never allow a situation were you don't have both LI
> and Cav nearby. Other than that I'd listen to everything others
have
> to say especially Mr Scott.(always does well with LAP!)Who better
to
> take advice from.
> good luck
> Matt
>
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> --- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "Noel White" <agrianian@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone figure out how to run an army with lots of EHC and HC
with
> only
> > JLS?
> > I mean lots of them....maybe half the 1600pt army.
> >
> > I'm building a Late Achaemenid Persian army and I'm hoping for
some
> > advice. I think that it is possible to make an army that looks
> like a
> > Persian army, and maybe even win sometimes.
> >
> > Generally the advice I get on shieldless HC JLS (not fighting
> > rank+1/2) is "take as few as possible, make them Reg's and
> skirmish or
> > hide. Then take Saka merc's instead."
> > Not good enough.
> > I want to attack. The persians couldn't get enough of these guys
> for
> > some reason. They always attacked, and I'm determined to make'em
> work.
> >
> > So HC (and some EHC) that can be regular or irregular, C's and
B's.
> > 1/2 of the regulars can carry shields. All are armed with JLS
> only.
> > I'm looking for dirty tricks, combo-tactics and positioning, and
> > anything else helpful. I don't go to tournaments much, so don't
> worry.
> > Someone out there has made this work... I hope you have Email!
> >
> > Thank you, gentlemen.
> >
> > Noel.
> >
>