Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[Mark Mallard]

I was wondering how strictly the number of command factors allowed for a list
was adhered to.

I have just made two 1600 point lists for Seleucids to the NASAMW list 41.
Both had one too many regular command factors, according to the numbers
allowed at the bottom of the list.

Is this a problem?

If it was say 2000 points i would have real problems.

mark mallard


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[scott holder]

I was wondering how strictly the number of command factors allowed for a list
was adhered to.

>Very adhered to. New lists tend to make that a non-issue.

[Patrick Byrne]

Can you extrapolate a little more on that answer, please. What's the FHM's
take on going from 1250pt lists to 2000pt lists with regards to commands.
(other than the typical whatever you at home or the tourney host wants to
do?)

Specifically, what does the listed number of commands mean? What does the
listed number of commands represent? A historical number of commands in a
countries army (I wouldn't think so with Rome having something like 20-30
legions at one time), a division of a countries army, or a roaming fighting
force (ie, Was Genghis Kahn's exploratory campaign army the number of
commands shown in the lists).

-PB



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> I was wondering how strictly the number of command factors allowed for a list
> was adhered to.
>
>> Very adhered to. New lists tend to make that a non-issue.
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[joncleaves]

In a message dated 5/14/2003 1:01:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, cuan@...
writes:

> Specifically, what does the listed number of commands mean? What does the
> listed number of commands represent? A historical number of commands in a
> countries army (I wouldn't think so with Rome having something like 20-30
> legions at one time), a division of a countries army, or a roaming fighting
> force (ie, Was Genghis Kahn's exploratory campaign army the
> number of
> commands shown in the lists).>>

Oh, Scott. Feel the pain, buddy.

As the rules guy, I'm not in this one (blissfully) but I must interject and
remind you that you mean 'command factor' and not command which is wayyyy
different.

[Patrick Byrne]

No,
I mean when a list says, 'you can have upto 15 regular commands and 5
irregular commands' what does this mean? , what is it historically based on
(country army, division, or roaming army)?, and what is the FHM's take on
this number of commands verse the various sizes of armies people play.

Furthermore, the standard response to last question is that whatever you at
home wants to do or whatever the tourney organizer wants to do is what
should be done. But as a tourney organizer, I would need some historical
basis to make a tourney 1250pts and cut the number of commands by 28%.

I guess what I am really asking is in this historical simulation called
warrior, what is the number of command factors represent?

P.S. if this is sounding trite, it is my day (week) at work coming through
coupled with the desire not to wait 'til tomorrow to launch the question.
-PB


> From: JonCleaves@...
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> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 14:06:51 -0400
> To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] lists question
>
> In a message dated 5/14/2003 1:01:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, cuan@...
> writes:
>
>> Specifically, what does the listed number of commands mean? What does the
>> listed number of commands represent? A historical number of commands in a
>> countries army (I wouldn't think so with Rome having something like 20-30
>> legions at one time), a division of a countries army, or a roaming fighting
>> force (ie, Was Genghis Kahn's exploratory campaign army the
>> number of
>> commands shown in the lists).>>
>
> Oh, Scott. Feel the pain, buddy.
>
> As the rules guy, I'm not in this one (blissfully) but I must interject and
> remind you that you mean 'command factor' and not command which is wayyyy
> different.
>
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[joncleaves]

In a message dated 5/14/2003 1:37:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, cuan@...
writes:

> I guess what I am really asking is in this historical
> simulation called
> warrior, what is the number of command factors represent?>>

I can answer that one:

The degree of command and control articulation that a field army of that
nation/group could manage.

Note that it doesn't change as the points get higher because a field army
commander is still a single human being with a pre-modern control structure.
You don't get less stuff when you buy a higher point army, you just can't divide
it into a hundred smaller pieces any way you want. 'Units' get bigger as the
army gets larger because separate units in Warrior represent tactical
flexibility.

I am sure that you will run out of maxima before you exceed the 12E limit for
each unit you can have, as that is how the lists are *basically* built.

Jon

In a message dated 5/14/2003 1:37:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, cuan@...
writes:

> No,
> I mean when a list says, 'you can have upto 15 regular commands and 5
> irregular commands' what does this mean? , what is it historically based on
> (country army, division, or roaming army)?, and what is the FHM's take on
> this number of commands verse the various sizes of armies
> people play.

I believe it means that your list, irregardless of the number of points you used
to build it, can consist of 15 Units of REG command troops and 5 units of IRR
command troops. If you list is 13 REG and 5 IRR it is good, if it is 12 REG and
7 IRR it is illegal.

Todd
Knave