Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

After winning last weekend I have been so stoked that I've managed to
paint 3 units of LC units, 1 SHC unit, 6 elements of skutatoi, 5
elements of Varangians, and 1 units of LMI B Psiloi. I'm like a
machine! :)

Here is a question for the group on painting. Does anyone here still
use the black prime method and/or enamel paints? I'm using both, as
I've been unsuccessful in the dip method three times now. I like the
look, but my method is slow going comparatively. Can someone here
tell me a simple way to use the dip, and tell me what I'm doing
wrong? Perhaps some photos of work to gague by.

TIA
Wanax

[scott holder]

I'm using both, as
I've been unsuccessful in the dip method three times now. I like the
look, but my method is slow going comparatively. Can someone here
tell me a simple way to use the dip,

>Really easy. Paint figure, don't worry about shading unless you have black in
which case you'll need to dry brush highlights. After painting figure, open can
of stained polyurathane. Liberally brush it on the figure. Then dab off the
excess. Let dry. You're done.

>The above is cleaner than the original "dip" method (from which the method gets
its name) in which you either used pliers or rubber gloves for you hands, grasp
the figure at it's base, stick it completely in the can of polyurathane, pull it
out and then "flick your wrist" to get rid of the excess. Derek talked about
doing it this way many years ago and what a mess it made. That probably
contributed to his divorce:):)

scott

[Todd Kaeser]

Wanax,

I've found that the easiest way for me to paint, and
for it to look excellent is to prime the figures all
blacks before painting.

I don't try to get to the edges when I'm painting,
leaving a line of black. I also don't paint the
creases in cloaks, hair, legs, arms, etc... and it
looks very good. It has speeded up my painting and it
also is a very nice effect.

Todd Kaeser

--- Wanax Andron <spocksleftball@...> wrote:
> After winning last weekend I have been so stoked
> that I've managed to
> paint 3 units of LC units, 1 SHC unit, 6 elements of
> skutatoi, 5
> elements of Varangians, and 1 units of LMI B Psiloi.
> I'm like a
> machine!
>
> Here is a question for the group on painting. Does
> anyone here still
> use the black prime method and/or enamel paints?
> I'm using both, as
> I've been unsuccessful in the dip method three times
> now. I like the
> look, but my method is slow going comparatively.
> Can someone here
> tell me a simple way to use the dip, and tell me
> what I'm doing
> wrong? Perhaps some photos of work to gague by.
>
> TIA
> Wanax
>
>


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> >Really easy. Paint figure, don't worry about shading unless you
have black in which case you'll need to dry brush highlights. After
painting figure, open can of stained polyurathane. Liberally brush
it on the figure. Then dab off the excess. Let dry. You're done.

Which color stain to use? I like the glossy shadowed effect of
Derek's figs, but he uses such a dark stain that the figs all look
like they are little turds with helmets :)

Would golden Oak or light cherry or some other moderate shade give
the same effect without overly darkening the colors of the figs?
Wanax

> scott

thanks Todd,
This is my current method, but I find it slow going. Especially on
the 15mm, as I can't actaully see what I'm painting there.

My work has suffered down to about a 7 in quality over the years due
to slowly loosing my eyesight up close (a normal thing). I can't see
squat inside 2 feet without glasses; I often have to guestimate where
stuff is, so figure painting following creases is increasingly
difficult.

That is why I've been experimenting with the dipping method. As of
yet it looks like crap, and I have some $50 worth of 25mm hoplites
that need to be completely reworked from my worthless efforts with
stains and inks.

Wanax

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, Todd Kaeser <hailkaeser@y...>
wrote:
> Wanax,
>
> I've found that the easiest way for me to paint, and
> for it to look excellent is to prime the figures all
> blacks before painting.
>
> I don't try to get to the edges when I'm painting,
> leaving a line of black. I also don't paint the
> creases in cloaks, hair, legs, arms, etc... and it
> looks very good. It has speeded up my painting and it
> also is a very nice effect.
>
> Todd Kaeser
>
> --- Wanax Andron <spocksleftball@y...> wrote:
> > After winning last weekend I have been so stoked
> > that I've managed to
> > paint 3 units of LC units, 1 SHC unit, 6 elements of
> > skutatoi, 5
> > elements of Varangians, and 1 units of LMI B Psiloi.
> > I'm like a
> > machine!
> >
> > Here is a question for the group on painting. Does
> > anyone here still
> > use the black prime method and/or enamel paints?
> > I'm using both, as
> > I've been unsuccessful in the dip method three times
> > now. I like the
> > look, but my method is slow going comparatively.
> > Can someone here
> > tell me a simple way to use the dip, and tell me
> > what I'm doing
> > wrong? Perhaps some photos of work to gague by.
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[Eric Turner]

Wanax,

If you think the strain is too stong of a color. Mix it with mineral
spirits. This give you more control over the darkness of the figure
and the thinner the poly is, the less chance of bubbles. Down side is
you may 2 to 3 coates. I have used this for old Ral Partha figures
and it works great. I don't like very dark strains but golden oak
won't work, try the ??? Colonial maple ????

Eric



--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "Wanax Andron"
<spocksleftball@y...> wrote:
> > >Really easy. Paint figure, don't worry about shading unless you
> have black in which case you'll need to dry brush highlights.
After
> painting figure, open can of stained polyurathane. Liberally brush
> it on the figure. Then dab off the excess. Let dry. You're done.
>
> Which color stain to use? I like the glossy shadowed effect of
> Derek's figs, but he uses such a dark stain that the figs all look
> like they are little turds with helmets
>
> Would golden Oak or light cherry or some other moderate shade give
> the same effect without overly darkening the colors of the figs?
> Wanax
>
> > scott

What is the dip method?

I am a slow painter, and have only recently started painting at all
again.

I used black undercoat and enamel paints.

I am currently learning to use acrylics and will be using white
primer, solid colours and water/ ink washes - I hope that it will
turn out OK

ANW

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "Wanax Andron"
<spocksleftball@y...> wrote:
> After winning last weekend I have been so stoked that I've managed
to
> paint 3 units of LC units, 1 SHC unit, 6 elements of skutatoi, 5
> elements of Varangians, and 1 units of LMI B Psiloi. I'm like a
> machine!
>
> Here is a question for the group on painting. Does anyone here
still
> use the black prime method and/or enamel paints? I'm using both,
as
> I've been unsuccessful in the dip method three times now. I like
the
> look, but my method is slow going comparatively. Can someone here
> tell me a simple way to use the dip, and tell me what I'm doing
> wrong? Perhaps some photos of work to gague by.
>
> TIA
> Wanax

.>
> Here is a question for the group on painting. Does anyone here
still
> use the black prime method and/or enamel paints? I'm using both,
as
> I've been unsuccessful in the dip method three times now. I like
the
> look, but my method is slow going comparatively. Can someone here
> tell me a simple way to use the dip, and tell me what I'm doing
> wrong? Perhaps some photos of work to gague by.
.

I am considered to be a fairly fast painter and if I may say so my
results are failry pleasing to the eye.

My painting method is to use a black undercoat and quickly applied
base colors. I then do a failry heavy overall dry-brush of an off-
white to bring out the details. I finish this off by producing
shading by black-lining with a drafting pen. The finishing touch is
a heavy coat or three of high gloss sealant.

The result is very "toy soldier" looking figures that look good at
normal viewing distances. This style of painting was fairly popular
back in the '80s (especially in the UK to judge from photos in
wargame magazines from the time) but has gone "out of style" now.
However I like the end result and it works well for rapidly churning
out armies.

Call me old-fashioned.

Martin