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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:56 am    Post subject: Re: Re: photos


Muz, just send 'em. We'll let you know if we can't use one or more and
why...

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:57 am    Post subject: Re: Re: photos


In a message dated 1/20/2005 19:43:01 Central Standard Time,
jtill000@... writes:

I know Murray can supply pictures of some really exquisitely painted Swiss
pikemen - in fact, he can supply a goodly number of photos of them being
outflanked, shot to pieces, swarmed upon by any number of opponents, assailed
by
Ghazvanid elephants (a fortnight ago), struggling to come to grips with Roman
legionarii (as per Gary Coughlan's Romans of last night, etc.>>


We very much prefer shots of figures 'in game' on nice terrain. But we
cannot use any shots between ahistorical opponents.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:23 am    Post subject: Re: photos


--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, JonCleaves@a... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/19/2005 23:41:00 Central Standard Time,
> mwbard@t... writes:
>
> Players could submit pictures to the FHE site to spruce that
> up, but other than that...>>
>
>
> Both our call for pictures and our call for scenarios produced
exactly NO
> submissions from our players.
>
> I need to put some energy into dragging this stuff out of folks
but don't
> have it at the moment...
>
> J
>
>Jon

With the photos, what level of critique is there about accuracy of
standards, colours etc.

I have a number of armies which are well painted (at least I think
so), and accurate as far as I can tell, but for instance my El Cid
general may not have exactly El Cids actual standard (if any one
knows what that was) and his cloak is red (where someone may know it
should be black).

Should we not worry about stuff like that and leave it to you to
determine if sufficiently accurate? If so, I can get clicking,
which may encourage others to also submit.

Muz

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:40 am    Post subject: Re: Re: photos


I know Murray can supply pictures of some really exquisitely painted Swiss
pikemen - in fact, he can supply a goodly number of photos of them being
outflanked, shot to pieces, swarmed upon by any number of opponents, assailed by
Ghazvanid elephants (a fortnight ago), struggling to come to grips with Roman
legionarii (as per Gary Coughlan's Romans of last night, etc.

No, only kidding, Muz.... In all seriousness, the general standard of Murray's
figures as painted by him - especially his most recent stuff - are nothing short
of 'collectable/premium level'.

Jeff Tillitzki

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: photos


--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, JonCleaves@a... wrote:
> Muz, just send 'em. We'll let you know if we can't use one or
more and
> why...
>
> J
>
jon

Hav added some sample photos in the files section - ran out of room
and the photos section seemed to have errors on it - let me know if
you prefer close photos of figures, or distant photos or games in
operation etc - will add better scenery when know your criteria


Have Berbers (andalusian) Swiss, Spanish, Chinese, Sassanid to
photograph
Muz

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Re: photos


The photos are great!

I will be taking all that get sent to me, but a couple of notes.

In order for us to put them in a product or on our website, we need them to be
accompanied by the following:
-name of the manufacturer of all figs depicted.
-name of the painter of all figs depeicted (and the owner if different).
-name of the photographer

Put the sender's name or initials in the photo name...

We cannot pay you for these. They are all subject to the submissions guidelines
listed in the files section (standard lawyer stuff). We *will* give you credit,
and will *only* publish these photos officially if we can give the proper
credit.

Photos more likely to get chosen have...
-the best painted figures
-the best based figures
-the best terrain (nicely modeled hill better than cloth over a book, no felt!)
-sky background over white

In game shots MUST be historical matchups

The best 8 photos we have by May will be candidates for the rulebook. The rest
will be candidates for later products.

Dave Smith? Mike Bard?

Has someone been identified to take pro shots of Platea?

Keep 'em coming!
Jon


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Re: photos


> Photos more likely to get chosen have...
> -the best painted figures
> -the best based figures
> -the best terrain (nicely modeled hill better than cloth over a book, no
felt!)
> -sky background over white

Sky background over white? Do you mean a white background or a blue/sky
background (cut out the typical hobby/player background and paste in a sky
background)?

> Dave Smith? Mike Bard?

I haven't forgotten. I've been rebasing and cleaning up my hoplites to make
them better, and there is another person here with a superior painted
Alexandrian army. There are 2 matchup sets there (hoplite vs hoplite and
hoplite vs Alexander). There are a number of chariot armies being worked on
that will give some matchups (Achean vs. Hittite, Achean vs Egyptian,
Hittite vs Egyptian) but they're not ready yet.

> Has someone been identified to take pro shots of Platea?

Not that I've heard. As soon as I can register it for Cold Wars (last time
I checked -- late last week -- you still couldn't register anything on the
site) and then I'll stick up a web page with details. I have found a good
map of the battle site and do have a rough sketch of the armies (roughly
2500pts per side, at 100:1 ratio and hence half ground scale).

Michael Bard
That Greek Hoplite Guy (who is still looking for a Cold Wars doubles
partner)

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Re: photos


Sky background over white? Do you mean a white background or a blue/sky
background (cut out the typical hobby/player background and paste in a sky
background)?>>

No, sorry. I meant a background made to look like the sky *as opposed to* white
cardboard or a sheet. Or a sky background digitially inserted.

> Dave Smith? Mike Bard?

<<I haven't forgotten. I've been rebasing and cleaning up my hoplites to make
them better, and there is another person here with a superior painted
Alexandrian army. >>

Kick ass...

<<Not that I've heard. As soon as I can register it for Cold Wars (last time
I checked -- late last week -- you still couldn't register anything on the
site) and then I'll stick up a web page with details.>>

I know Jeff Zorn was asking for PEL info, so I'd check daily..

Jon


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Re: photos


Murray, El Cidīs standard probaly was the word CAMPIDOCTOR in golden letters in
a green field. The pattern probably like a norman gonfanon. El Cidīs shield
probably was a green dragon on a yellow (golden) field. A red cloak seems ok to
me.
E. Moskowich
A Coruņa, Spain.
--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, JonCleaves@a... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/19/2005 23:41:00 Central Standard Time,
> mwbard@t... writes:
>
> Players could submit pictures to the FHE site to spruce that
> up, but other than that...>>
>
>
> Both our call for pictures and our call for scenarios produced
exactly NO
> submissions from our players.
>
> I need to put some energy into dragging this stuff out of folks
but don't
> have it at the moment...
>
> J
>
>Jon

With the photos, what level of critique is there about accuracy of
standards, colours etc.

I have a number of armies which are well painted (at least I think
so), and accurate as far as I can tell, but for instance my El Cid
general may not have exactly El Cids actual standard (if any one
knows what that was) and his cloak is red (where someone may know it
should be black).

Should we not worry about stuff like that and leave it to you to
determine if sufficiently accurate? If so, I can get clicking,
which may encourage others to also submit.

Muz






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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Re: photos


In a message dated 1/25/2005 17:21:48 Central Standard Time,
mdevans@... writes:

They have some superb photos of groups of figures, to give you some
ideas and inspiration.>>


Also please remember that while we want to showcase our player's artistic
efforts, we, especially for the interior of the rulebook, want to give a
customer an idea of what Warrior looks like - it is also about the basing and
units
formed up and in action.

Jon







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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 2:08 am    Post subject: Re: photos


--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, JonCleaves@a... wrote:
> Sky background over white? Do you mean a white background or a
blue/sky
> background (cut out the typical hobby/player background and paste
in a sky
> background)?>>
>
> No, sorry. I meant a background made to look like the sky *as
opposed to* white cardboard or a sheet.

If people want to see good photos of painted fiures, try the
gripping beast site www.grippingbeast.com and the vendel site
www.vendelminiatures.co.uk and of course perry miniatures for
Samurai www.perry-miniatures.com

They have some superb photos of groups of figures, to give you some
ideas and inspiration.

Muz

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