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RULE: Fractions and rear ranks

 
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Doug
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:31 pm    Post subject: RULE: Fractions and rear ranks


>the answer isn't obvious, particularly because elsewhere in Warrior
>fractions DO round up (i.e. Rear rank shooting and fighting).

That reminds me -- when calculating rear ranks, do you:
a) sum the rear ranks and then divide by 2
or
b) divide each rank by 2, round up, and carry the subtotal for all the ranks?

I think its a) but I recall someone doing factors a long time ago & I
think he used b).

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Chris Bump
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:26 pm    Post subject: Re: RULE: Fractions and rear ranks


In empathy of Cole and to highlight Doug's question it is not so
obvious, particularly to a new player. There are idiosyncracies to our
game that do not seem to make alot of sense. For example, a 4 element
body of lance armed cav fighting two elements abreast by 2 deep fight 9
figures.

Whereas two 6 man lancer units fighting the same single opponent as the
1 12 man lancer was get to use 10 men fighting because each 6 man unit
round up the 3 man back rank to 2 each. So somehow two seperate units
potentially even of different nationalities and languages and skill
sets can seemingly coordinate and fight more efficiently (bringing 10
men to bear vs 9) than a single organized unit.

So what is intuitively obvious to the experienced player may not be so
to newer or less experienced players. Redundancy may be of value.
Chris

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, Doug <rockd@...> wrote:
>
> >the answer isn't obvious, particularly because elsewhere in Warrior
> >fractions DO round up (i.e. Rear rank shooting and fighting).
>
> That reminds me -- when calculating rear ranks, do you:
> a) sum the rear ranks and then divide by 2
> or
> b) divide each rank by 2, round up, and carry the subtotal for all
the ranks?
>
> I think its a) but I recall someone doing factors a long time ago & I
> think he used b).
>

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Mark Stone
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:24 pm    Post subject: Re: RULE: Fractions and rear ranks


--- On February 17 Chris said: ---

> Whereas two 6 man lancer units fighting the same single opponent as the
> 1 12 man lancer was get to use 10 men fighting because each 6 man unit
> round up the 3 man back rank to 2 each. So somehow two seperate units
> potentially even of different nationalities and languages and skill
> sets can seemingly coordinate and fight more efficiently (bringing 10
> men to bear vs 9) than a single organized unit.
>
> So what is intuitively obvious to the experienced player may not be so
> to newer or less experienced players.

I have always assumed that part of the rationale here was to encourage the use
of historical unit sizes; knights typically operated in more like what we would
call a 2-stand unit than a 4-stand unit. This is somewhat akin to the way TOG
made 6@3=16 casualties, wherease 8@3 was 30 casualties. I believe there then
intent was to encourage Romans to operate in smaller units.

But I agree, these are nuances that it takes a while to recognize when you're a
beginner.

I would have thought, though, that the confusion would have been over why you
round off when you do, rather than Cole's attempt to round off where no
rounding off is needed, permitted, nor implied.


-Mark Stone

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