Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[Mark Mallard]

In a message dated 21/06/2005 13:54:36 GMT Standard Time,
jerryhearnau@... writes:

I have a question about the "Roman German Battle Step by Step" pdf
from the files section (brilliant piece of writing by the way).
Slide 57, beginning of Bound 4. Why does the Roman player use a
Counter to turn Unit 2 90 degrees ready to charge the German cavalry
Unit 1??? I thought rule 6.0 said that a unit beginning a bound
within 40p of an enemy unit could manouvre. So why not do the 90
degree turn in the approach phase? Why wait to counter and take the
chance on failing?? Rule 6.14 says when a unit may attempt to
counter but doesn't seem to me to say it must counter in the
situation described. The only reason I could think of for the unit
to counter would be if it were rallying during the approach phase.
But there is no mention of this in the example and I can see no
reason why the roman unit would need to rally.
This is not official - but as its not pertaining to the rule book as such, i
will offer my opinion as i did get a kind mention on page one of the said
document.

I think you are right on all counts except that the unit is rallying from
their opponents routing the previous turn and so no approach move was possible.

Would appreciate
some guidance here. Have I stumbled on a rule that is interpreted
differently in the US to the way we play in Australia? Or is the
example only there as an example of countering, and the player could
equally well have chose to manouvre in the approach phase?

Yours in puzzlement

Jerry Hearn
Canberra
Australia






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I have a question about the "Roman German Battle Step by Step" pdf
from the files section (brilliant piece of writing by the way).
Slide 57, beginning of Bound 4. Why does the Roman player use a
Counter to turn Unit 2 90 degrees ready to charge the German cavalry
Unit 1??? I thought rule 6.0 said that a unit beginning a bound
within 40p of an enemy unit could manouvre. So why not do the 90
degree turn in the approach phase? Why wait to counter and take the
chance on failing?? Rule 6.14 says when a unit may attempt to
counter but doesn't seem to me to say it must counter in the
situation described. The only reason I could think of for the unit
to counter would be if it were rallying during the approach phase.
But there is no mention of this in the example and I can see no
reason why the roman unit would need to rally. Would appreciate
some guidance here. Have I stumbled on a rule that is interpreted
differently in the US to the way we play in Australia? Or is the
example only there as an example of countering, and the player could
equally well have chose to manouvre in the approach phase?

Yours in puzzlement

Jerry Hearn
Canberra
Australia

[joncleaves]

<< I have a question about the "Roman German Battle Step by Step" pdf
from the files section (brilliant piece of writing by the way).
Slide 57, beginning of Bound 4. Why does the Roman player use a
Counter to turn Unit 2 90 degrees ready to charge the German cavalry
Unit 1??? I thought rule 6.0 said that a unit beginning a bound
within 40p of an enemy unit could manouvre. So why not do the 90
degree turn in the approach phase?>>

Very good eye. You have uncovered an error in the sample battle and a very
subtle one. Unit 2 is in fact not required to rally as it did not choose to
pursue and so is not ceasing a pursuit due to lack of contact. Unit 2 was
indeed eligible to move in approaches.

Remember, you are not required to rally just because hand to hand ends. It is
the manner in which it ends that determines if you must rally.

Todd, if you are reading this, we need to make that fix....


Jon



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[Todd Schneider]

It's added to the list.

Todd

--- JonCleaves@... wrote:

> << I have a question about the "Roman German Battle
> Step by Step" pdf
> from the files section (brilliant piece of writing
> by the way).
> Slide 57, beginning of Bound 4. Why does the Roman
> player use a
> Counter to turn Unit 2 90 degrees ready to charge
> the German cavalry
> Unit 1??? I thought rule 6.0 said that a unit
> beginning a bound
> within 40p of an enemy unit could manouvre. So why
> not do the 90
> degree turn in the approach phase?>>
>
> Very good eye. You have uncovered an error in the
> sample battle and a very subtle one. Unit 2 is in
> fact not required to rally as it did not choose to
> pursue and so is not ceasing a pursuit due to lack
> of contact. Unit 2 was indeed eligible to move in
> approaches.
>
> Remember, you are not required to rally just because
> hand to hand ends. It is the manner in which it
> ends that determines if you must rally.
>
> Todd, if you are reading this, we need to make that
> fix....
>
>
> Jon
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>