Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[Jeff Zorn]

Howdy,

Did anyone post results from Tactical Retreat?

Was the event well-attended? They sent out emails every week for 6
weeks trying to drum up support. I couldn't attend, but wonder if it fared OK.

Jeff Zorn

[Ewan McNay]

Yes, it went well (from a Warrior perspective at least) - 2 of the 12
intended didn't make it, but the 10 who came all (I'm pretty sure) had a
great time.

I didn't see much of the rest of the convention, but it looked pretty
small; on the other hand there were a bunch of folks around, and I got to
learn one new (pre-pub) game, so fun there too.

Bill mentioned that I managed to win our game; he omitted to mention the
dice, which were bad enough on both sides that he actually analysed thm
afterward . Between the two of us, we had 8 up rolls to 24 down - OK,
that's pretty bad. The really horrendous part? My two on-table
subgenerals, with their SHC already trying to fight through LMI in the
woods, managed to roll -4 and attempt to commit suicide four times in a
row. Yes, that means that they *both* did it once, only to have the
opposing LMI also roll down and fail to do 2 cpf - so of course, they were
both sufficiently disgusted with the CinC's battle plan that they did it
*again*. I think those may have been 4 of my first 5 combat rolls. Not
exactly propitious.

This led me to discover the good thing about fighting in a wood with your
SHC generals: no-one sees them die. Moreover, when they rout and roll
down, they don't move, hence don't leave the woods, and still no-one sees
them die!

The heroes of the game really were my unbeloved HC. Also fighting in the
woods, they actually managed to roll up against their LMI opponents, hence
pushing them back disordered and then routing them. This melee emerged
from the wood behind the flank of some Carthaginian spearmen who had just
that bound received an elephant charge. When the spearmen shook prior to
melee, and the command flank march arrived, it suddenly became a bad time
to be African on that side of the table. I also got really lucky in a LC
skirmish in the middle, in the other gap-between-two-woods we fought in; I
rolled -2. That was good enough to take me from being one factor down to
one factor up when Bill rolled -4 and so he broke off toward some more
LMI marching to reinforce, who shook at the sight of their LC friends
being caught.

The whole battle was, I thought, about timing. Could my army escape from
the woods before being killed off?

As it happened, it was about concentration of power. My SHC could not win
against their LMI opponents. However, I had so many more units in that
part of the battlefield that I was in general able to overcome quality
(for woods fighting) by quantity; small LI JLS, Sh units make a big
difference when hitting the shieldless flank of an LMI JLS, Sh unit
engaged to front (that was what happened on the other side of the gap in
which my elephants sat; the SHC general was just managing to successfully
commit suicide, but the opposing LMI were broken by the LI; my SHC stayed
in the wood and died quietly, while his LMI again ran out and forced the
supporting hoplites - who had just hit my other elephant unit in their
flank - to shake. Close order foor shaking suddenly take a -4 to their
combat effectiveness, of course, which is just such a huge swing.

Fun battle all around; the dice really were just amazing.

I imagine that Jacob will post the results shortly. My other two battles
were against Dennis' Iberians, who did not get nearly such pleasant
terrain to fight me as did the Carthos; and against Dan's Moldavians,
which is an army I still like, but whose IrrAs refused to roll up.





Jeff Zorn wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> Did anyone post results from Tactical Retreat?
>
> Was the event well-attended? They sent out emails every week for 6
> weeks trying to drum up support. I couldn't attend, but wonder if it fared OK.
>
> Jeff Zorn
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
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>

[Bill Low]

Warning: Don't bother to read on unless you are following the
general merriment of an EL, SHC, MI and LC army fighting its way
through the woods ...

... I don't disagree at all with Ewan's analysis that (after allowing
for the reversal in advantage worked by the terrain) it was
concentration in the end that made the difference. And that is
exactly where the unfortunate results of the otherwise minor LC
battle he describes were felt most keenly.

Ewan placed virtually his entire force over against his right, to be
supported by a command flank marching on that edge of the table; mine
were deployed more evenly across the table to cover all the gaps with
a mobile reserve in the center. The reserve came into action
promptly enough, and the troops from the far side of the table were
marching swiftly through my rear zone to take up positions blocking
the flank march and to reinforce the woods fight were necessary ...
when the LC came tumbling back to within 120p, with a break-off
turned to rout, forcing wavers and preventing the far-side
reinforcements from marching to where they were needed.

Result: Cartho left overwhelmed, despite the initial advantages of
fighting in the woods.

Good, tense game, with up's and down's for both sides, albeit with a
lop-sided result at the end.



--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, Ewan McNay <ewan.mcnay@y...>
wrote:
>
> Yes, it went well (from a Warrior perspective at least) - 2 of the
12
> intended didn't make it, but the 10 who came all (I'm pretty sure)
had a
> great time.
>
> I didn't see much of the rest of the convention, but it looked
pretty
> small; on the other hand there were a bunch of folks around, and I
got to
> learn one new (pre-pub) game, so fun there too.
>
> Bill mentioned that I managed to win our game; he omitted to
mention the
> dice, which were bad enough on both sides that he actually analysed
thm
> afterward . Between the two of us, we had 8 up rolls to 24 down -
OK,
> that's pretty bad. The really horrendous part? My two on-table
> subgenerals, with their SHC already trying to fight through LMI in
the
> woods, managed to roll -4 and attempt to commit suicide four times
in a
> row. Yes, that means that they *both* did it once, only to have
the
> opposing LMI also roll down and fail to do 2 cpf - so of course,
they were
> both sufficiently disgusted with the CinC's battle plan that they
did it
> *again*. I think those may have been 4 of my first 5 combat
rolls. Not
> exactly propitious.
>
> This led me to discover the good thing about fighting in a wood
with your
> SHC generals: no-one sees them die. Moreover, when they rout and
roll
> down, they don't move, hence don't leave the woods, and still no-
one sees
> them die!
>
> The heroes of the game really were my unbeloved HC. Also fighting
in the
> woods, they actually managed to roll up against their LMI
opponents, hence
> pushing them back disordered and then routing them. This melee
emerged
> from the wood behind the flank of some Carthaginian spearmen who
had just
> that bound received an elephant charge. When the spearmen shook
prior to
> melee, and the command flank march arrived, it suddenly became a
bad time
> to be African on that side of the table. I also got really lucky
in a LC
> skirmish in the middle, in the other gap-between-two-woods we
fought in; I
> rolled -2. That was good enough to take me from being one factor
down to
> one factor up when Bill rolled -4 and so he broke off toward
some more
> LMI marching to reinforce, who shook at the sight of their LC
friends
> being caught.
>
> The whole battle was, I thought, about timing. Could my army
escape from
> the woods before being killed off?
>
> As it happened, it was about concentration of power. My SHC could
not win
> against their LMI opponents. However, I had so many more units in
that
> part of the battlefield that I was in general able to overcome
quality
> (for woods fighting) by quantity; small LI JLS, Sh units make a big
> difference when hitting the shieldless flank of an LMI JLS, Sh unit
> engaged to front (that was what happened on the other side of the
gap in
> which my elephants sat; the SHC general was just managing to
successfully
> commit suicide, but the opposing LMI were broken by the LI; my SHC
stayed
> in the wood and died quietly, while his LMI again ran out and
forced the
> supporting hoplites - who had just hit my other elephant unit in
their
> flank - to shake. Close order foor shaking suddenly take a -4 to
their
> combat effectiveness, of course, which is just such a huge swing.
>
> Fun battle all around; the dice really were just amazing.
>
> I imagine that Jacob will post the results shortly. My other two
battles
> were against Dennis' Iberians, who did not get nearly such pleasant
> terrain to fight me as did the Carthos; and against Dan's
Moldavians,
> which is an army I still like, but whose IrrAs refused to roll up.
>
>
>
>
>
> Jeff Zorn wrote:
> > Howdy,
> >
> > Did anyone post results from Tactical Retreat?
> >
> > Was the event well-attended? They sent out emails every week for
6
> > weeks trying to drum up support. I couldn't attend, but wonder if
it fared OK.
> >
> > Jeff Zorn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>