Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[Don Coon]

We had a tourney here in DFW on August 16.

We played a 1 list 1600 point 15mm 3 3.5 round tourney using all and only
official FHE rules, lists, and supersessions. We used standard 14.5 scoring.
We had 2 first time players, and 3 with limited experience. We power matched
rounds 2 and 3 (winners vs winners) and the third round pitted the only 2
players with 10 points. The event was held at Lone Star Comics in Arlington
Texas (who carries FHE product and lead BTW). The store owner, Mike, is gearing
up to play soon as well.

The results were as follows:

Donald Coon - Ghaznavid
Kelly Wilkinson - Arab Empire
David Dietrich - Sungas Indian
Jack Young - Byzantine (sorry I do not know which one)
John Lloyd - Medieval French
Mike Russell - Palmyran
Hanz Dietrich - Later Hoplite
Phillip Lindman - Macedonian
Patrick Byrnes - Later Crusader
Chris Bump - Patrician Roman
George Chrestensen - he was an observer, that was convinced to sit down and push
some lead. He is polishing up a later Teutonic army and wants to jump into
Warrior.

As a side note there were several forfeits due to circumstances beyond player
control. Patrick's Dog dies at 8:05AM causing him to forfeit his round 1 game.
Chris Bump had to miss the last round due to family obligations (frazzled wife
home with twins). Due to each of these things, Patrick and Chris spent most of
their time actually siding with a newer player giving them game coaching, and
rule aids. It worked out really well in the end.

6 NASAMW members were present.

The new guys really took to the game. Although I feel this game does require a
mentor to learn properly, it is a testament to the tightness of the rules how
quickly they picked it up. As head judge, I had to make around 5 rulings all
day, and only 2 were sticky. One required a reading and rereading of a sentence
(about 2HCW shieldlessness), and the rule was clear, we (except Kelly) were just
reading it wrong. The other sticky was a weird situation with a forced charge
due to prep shooting and an enemy partially to its flank that it wanted (and
could legally) charge. There was mutual wheeling during the charge move and
this sometimes causes disagreement between the parties.

Prized were:

Best painted unit: Dave Dietrich $10 FHE gift certificate (beautiful hoplites)
Most waver tests caused in one bound: Dave Dietrich $5 FHE gift certificate
Most casualties inflicted on a single body in one bound: Donald Coon $10 cash
(it was 192)
First place: Donald Coon $15 FHE gift certificate (not accepted, it will be
rolled to FWW).
There were TONS of door prizes donated by Kelly Wilkinson. They ranged from
computer games, to lead, to old slingshot mags. Quite an eclectic mix. Thanks
Kelly.

We felt the turn out was very good considering FWW is only 1 month away. I
would like to thank those that traveled to come from KC, and Bossier City. The
effort is much appreciated.

Don


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[Greg Regets]

It sounds like you had a great time and I am pleased you made good
use of the room.

Congrats to the winner!

The wheel to charge thing does come up here now and again. I don't
recall seing it last weekend, but do remember games where it happens.

The biggest thing I noticed in our last weekend get together, was the
lining up of stands, when it is not clearly obvious how it should be
done, and advantages to be gained by lining up, or more to the point,
making your enemy line up. The rules are clear enough, but far too
many situations arise where one side gaines a somewhat large
advantage in bound three by some sort of lining up issue that happens
in bound two (for example). This may be in part because we tend to
favor many small units here, and may also be something that would
clear itself up quite easily with some Scott Holder type help on the
table.

Greg

P.S. Condolences to Patrick on the loss of his pet. It is not an easy
thing to be sure.





--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, <jjendon@c...> wrote:
> We had a tourney here in DFW on August 16.
>
> We played a 1 list 1600 point 15mm 3 3.5 round tourney using all
and only official FHE rules, lists, and supersessions. We used
standard 14.5 scoring. We had 2 first time players, and 3 with
limited experience. We power matched rounds 2 and 3 (winners vs
winners) and the third round pitted the only 2 players with 10
points. The event was held at Lone Star Comics in Arlington Texas
(who carries FHE product and lead BTW). The store owner, Mike, is
gearing up to play soon as well.
>
> The results were as follows:
>
> Donald Coon - Ghaznavid
> Kelly Wilkinson - Arab Empire
> David Dietrich - Sungas Indian
> Jack Young - Byzantine (sorry I do not know which one)
> John Lloyd - Medieval French
> Mike Russell - Palmyran
> Hanz Dietrich - Later Hoplite
> Phillip Lindman - Macedonian
> Patrick Byrnes - Later Crusader
> Chris Bump - Patrician Roman
> George Chrestensen - he was an observer, that was convinced to sit
down and push some lead. He is polishing up a later Teutonic army
and wants to jump into Warrior.
>
> As a side note there were several forfeits due to circumstances
beyond player control. Patrick's Dog dies at 8:05AM causing him to
forfeit his round 1 game. Chris Bump had to miss the last round due
to family obligations (frazzled wife home with twins). Due to each
of these things, Patrick and Chris spent most of their time actually
siding with a newer player giving them game coaching, and rule aids.
It worked out really well in the end.
>
> 6 NASAMW members were present.
>
> The new guys really took to the game. Although I feel this game
does require a mentor to learn properly, it is a testament to the
tightness of the rules how quickly they picked it up. As head judge,
I had to make around 5 rulings all day, and only 2 were sticky. One
required a reading and rereading of a sentence (about 2HCW
shieldlessness), and the rule was clear, we (except Kelly) were just
reading it wrong. The other sticky was a weird situation with a
forced charge due to prep shooting and an enemy partially to its
flank that it wanted (and could legally) charge. There was mutual
wheeling during the charge move and this sometimes causes
disagreement between the parties.
>
> Prized were:
>
> Best painted unit: Dave Dietrich $10 FHE gift certificate
(beautiful hoplites)
> Most waver tests caused in one bound: Dave Dietrich $5 FHE gift
certificate
> Most casualties inflicted on a single body in one bound: Donald
Coon $10 cash (it was 192)
> First place: Donald Coon $15 FHE gift certificate (not accepted, it
will be rolled to FWW).
> There were TONS of door prizes donated by Kelly Wilkinson. They
ranged from computer games, to lead, to old slingshot mags. Quite an
eclectic mix. Thanks Kelly.
>
> We felt the turn out was very good considering FWW is only 1 month
away. I would like to thank those that traveled to come from KC, and
Bossier City. The effort is much appreciated.
>
> Don
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Harlan Garrett]

Don,

I know that David, Hans, Jack, Kelly, and Pat are NASAMWs members in good
standing, did you get some new people to join or did I missed someone?

Harlan
-----Original Message-----
From: jjendon@... [mailto:jjendon@...]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 7:16 AM
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WarriorRules] Tourney


We had a tourney here in DFW on August 16.

We played a 1 list 1600 point 15mm 3 3.5 round tourney using all and only
official FHE rules, lists, and supersessions. We used standard 14.5
scoring. We had 2 first time players, and 3 with limited experience. We
power matched rounds 2 and 3 (winners vs winners) and the third round pitted
the only 2 players with 10 points. The event was held at Lone Star Comics
in Arlington Texas (who carries FHE product and lead BTW). The store owner,
Mike, is gearing up to play soon as well.

The results were as follows:

Donald Coon - Ghaznavid
Kelly Wilkinson - Arab Empire
David Dietrich - Sungas Indian
Jack Young - Byzantine (sorry I do not know which one)
John Lloyd - Medieval French
Mike Russell - Palmyran
Hanz Dietrich - Later Hoplite
Phillip Lindman - Macedonian
Patrick Byrnes - Later Crusader
Chris Bump - Patrician Roman
George Chrestensen - he was an observer, that was convinced to sit down and
push some lead. He is polishing up a later Teutonic army and wants to jump
into Warrior.

As a side note there were several forfeits due to circumstances beyond
player control. Patrick's Dog dies at 8:05AM causing him to forfeit his
round 1 game. Chris Bump had to miss the last round due to family
obligations (frazzled wife home with twins). Due to each of these things,
Patrick and Chris spent most of their time actually siding with a newer
player giving them game coaching, and rule aids. It worked out really well
in the end.

6 NASAMW members were present.

The new guys really took to the game. Although I feel this game does
require a mentor to learn properly, it is a testament to the tightness of
the rules how quickly they picked it up. As head judge, I had to make
around 5 rulings all day, and only 2 were sticky. One required a reading
and rereading of a sentence (about 2HCW shieldlessness), and the rule was
clear, we (except Kelly) were just reading it wrong. The other sticky was a
weird situation with a forced charge due to prep shooting and an enemy
partially to its flank that it wanted (and could legally) charge. There was
mutual wheeling during the charge move and this sometimes causes
disagreement between the parties.

Prized were:

Best painted unit: Dave Dietrich $10 FHE gift certificate (beautiful
hoplites) Most waver tests caused in one bound: Dave Dietrich $5 FHE gift
certificate Most casualties inflicted on a single body in one bound: Donald
Coon $10 cash (it was 192) First place: Donald Coon $15 FHE gift certificate
(not accepted, it will be rolled to FWW). There were TONS of door prizes
donated by Kelly Wilkinson. They ranged from computer games, to lead, to
old slingshot mags. Quite an eclectic mix. Thanks Kelly.

We felt the turn out was very good considering FWW is only 1 month away. I
would like to thank those that traveled to come from KC, and Bossier City.
The effort is much appreciated.

Don


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[Patrick Byrne]

Don joined NASAMW before the tourney.
-PB

> From: "Harlan D. Garrett" <Harlan.D.Garrett@...>
> Reply-To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:43:49 -0500
> To: <WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [WarriorRules] Tourney
>
> Don,
>
> I know that David, Hans, Jack, Kelly, and Pat are NASAMWs members in good
> standing, did you get some new people to join or did I missed someone?
>
> Harlan




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[Harlan Garrett]

Wow,

Harlan

-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick [mailto:cuan@...]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 7:53 PM
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Tourney


Don joined NASAMW before the tourney.

-PB



> From: "Harlan D. Garrett" <Harlan.D.Garrett@...>

> Reply-To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:43:49 -0500

> To: <WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: RE: [WarriorRules] Tourney

>

> Don,

>

> I know that David, Hans, Jack, Kelly, and Pat are NASAMWs members in
> good

> standing, did you get some new people to join or did I missed someone?

>

> Harlan









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[Don Coon]

I am a NASAMW member. I sent in my application via snail mail on August 12.

Don

> Don,
>
> I know that David, Hans, Jack, Kelly, and Pat are NASAMWs members in good
> standing, did you get some new people to join or did I missed someone?
>
> Harlan

[Don Coon]

> The wheel to charge thing does come up here now and again. I don't
> recall seing it last weekend, but do remember games where it happens.

Yes it does come up now and again.

If it is foot vs foot, or mounted vs mounted it usually resolves as a
frontal charge due the the charge target simply countercharging (and
wheeling too). But when mounted charge foot, or impetuous foot charge foot,
then that unsupported flank will often times feel the pain of not having a
buddy nearby!

Don