Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[joncleaves]

Ok, Chris, speak slowly

I said to Boyd:

<< > A class troops in a front rank make a body never uneasy (5.13), which is
even
> better than eager. If these peasants are LMI (loose order), then yes, 2
CPF
> from prep shooting would cause them to charge or waver (11.1). They waver
as
> D's, but do not have to take a waver to charge as 1.they would have to be
> entirely D or partly E (5.52) and 2. that waver is only if D/Es are
prompted
> to charge and the charge from prepshooting casualties is unprompted.>>

Chris said in response:

<< Hunh? What about page 73, paragraph 11.1 fifth bullet? "If loose or
close formation foot including Irregular "A" charge unprompted (4.3)." I
think you made a "whoopsy" Jon! >>


That part of 11.1 is EXACTLY the rule I was referring to. The body in Boyd's
example includes A's, so if shot at for 2 CPF it will have to either charge
unprompted or take a waver test.


If that body chooses to charge umprompted, it will NOT have to take a waver
test for LOW MORALE CHARGES (5.52) for TWO reasons:


1. It is not entirely D or partially E.

2. The LOW MORALE CHARGE waver is only ever taken by D/E troops when they
are prompted to charge and the charge we are talking about would be an
unprompted one.

In any case, the body could take the waver instead of charging and would take
it as D's.

This is, of course, exactly what I said before, so precisely where is the
supposed 'whoopsy'?

Jon

[Chris Damour]

On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 JonCleaves@... wrote:
> Kudos to Chris Damour for remembering that it is really better to just have
> me do it as I definitely do *not* have time or desire to go back through a
> thread of rules questions to sort out what a player might have gotten wrong.
Hey, you're bigger than I am and I am getting fat... Besides, I have
a low threshold for pain.

> Kudos to Scott for remembering that I'm the rules horse this time. He is
> also correct in the opinion that a read of the rulebook would have worked
> wonders here.
Yup, see below.

> << 1. If my crusade pesants are front rank IrrgA and back three ranks
> IrrD, then it is a body that is always eagar and must charge if shot
> for 2 CPF, yet waver tests as D in order to charge? >>
>
> A class troops in a front rank make a body never uneasy (5.13), which is even
> better than eager. If these peasants are LMI (loose order), then yes, 2 CPF
> from prep shooting would cause them to charge or waver (11.1). They waver as
> D's, but do not have to take a waver to charge as 1.they would have to be
> entirely D or partly E (5.52) and 2. that waver is only if D/Es are prompted
> to charge and the charge from prepshooting casualties is unprompted.
Hunh? What about page 73, paragraph 11.1 fifth bullet? "If loose or
close formation foot including Irregular "A" charge unprompted (4.3)." I
think you made a "whoopsy" Jon!

--
Chris Damour