Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[Art]

In building Romans, I'm trying to understand what makes Reg A troops better than Reg B?

For Samurai, Irr A are obviously better than Irr B but I haven't figured out what makes Reg A worth buying.

Thanks,
Art

[Ewan McNay]

The biggest benefit is that A class troops are never - *never* - uneasy. Making Reg B troops uneasy is pretty simple, as a single cause will do so.

In a Roman list, though, the only troops I would seriously consider making Reg A would be auxilia, if that were an option; not cost-effective for cavalry, LI, or legions.

[scott holder]

Art: Case in point, my Burgundian Ordonnance list. I have a unit (could have more) of mixed Household LB and CB. All are Reg B. I upgrade 1E to Reg A, presto, a unit that is *never* uneasy.

Keep in mind that this approach only makes sense if your playing style is one where you're willing to trade off waver checks for the ability to do things. I am. Thus, having such units means I'm only blowing tests on a 1. Now for some people, that is *still* odds they don't like, ie. the "play the game to minimize waver tests". If that's how you play, then a Reg A upgrade in unlikely to be of much use to your playing style.

scott

[Adrian Williams]

While any Reg A in a unit makes that unit never uneasy, there appears to be no additional benefit in having more than one element as Reg A where the remainder can be Reg B.

Tell me if I am wrong.

Adrian

[Adrian Williams]

The never uneasy comes from having a single element of Reg A. The problem to my mind is that if the unit is Reg B with a single unit of Reg A there is no benefit to making the whole of the unit Reg A.

I would be pleased to be corrected.

Adrian

[Bill Chriss]

I can find no other advantage, but then, I don't play them. Note that the element(s) of Reg A must be in the front rank to render the entire unit not uneasy (see p. 25). Thus, units that contract and expand a lot or otherwise shuffle ranks, intentionally or as a result of formation or facing changes, would need to be quite careful about counting on this bonus to the entire unit from just one Reg A element.

[Ewan McNay]

Multiple posts: posting almost always works, even when the system tells you it has not .

Reg A - you're correct, a single front-rank element is enough. Greek is correct on 'shuffling,' however; note that this also matters for e.g. units with mixed armour classes, especially something like a unit of SHK/MC which turns 180 degrees and is suddenly a MC-fronted unit...

[Mark Stone]

[Ewan McNay]

The rules really say that?*

[*No, I don't actually have any doubt that Mark is correct. This is purely a rhetorical device to indicate my own ignorance.]

Wow. So something like - oh, say my Sassanid SHC generals with their rear rank of EHC - had absolutely no need to spend time exchanging ranks this past weekend. Woohoo!

[Art]

Okay, just thinking out loud...

For EI Romans, Reg A are best only to be placed in the front rank especially for leaders (Mark's "cheesy" rule in effect) to prevent unease. As I have no experience mixing units, what effect does this have on tests such as waver test? Does the front stand's morale count as the entire units morale? Do you take the lowest morale as the unit's morale?

For Irr A (like Samurai), keep the entire unit as A in order to be able to charge unprompted. You can mix Irr B Samurai with Ashigaru. You can raise the Ashigaru morale to B but if the front rank is the modifying unit, do you really need to upgrade the Ashigaru? In fact, do you need to upgrade them to LHI from LMI if Samurai are the front line? What benefit is there to spending the extra cost?

Also, the front rank has 2HCW which only allows one rank to fight...does this mean that even if I purchase 1HCW or LTS for the second rank, can they fight?

Thanks in advance,
Art

[Mark Stone]

[Mark Stone]