Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

John Murphy · Legate Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 1625

I am not really afraid to run loose order with LTS and a missile weapon against most mounted, especially in large deep units, and I forget but I thought maybe I read something in the list notes about not mixing loose and close order troops so if I have to make a choice I went with LMI. But maybe I am thinking of a different list. However the mounted CinC required by the later period is anathema to this list idea which was also part of why I didn't go that way.

But I dunno. I went and tried a few attempts at the Norse-Irish but I keep coming to the conclusion that gee all the units are basically the same. At least I have to credit your Araucanians with having a few different troop types.

Well see, turns out I'm going to have to put any new army building on the back burner for a while perhaps anyhow.

Mark Stone · Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:31 am Post subject:

KellyWilkinson · Guest

Jon,

What figure manufacturer are you thinking about using? I think that 1st Corp make a figure that looks like Kirk Douglas. . .

Kelly

lilroblis · Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:39 pm Post subject: Everyone walks

What about nubian, use lots of units of 6 man lmi jls,sh vs knights
He charges you 3 or four fatigues conbat 5 @5 or 5 @ 7 20 or 30 fatiguers
Your fight 5 @2 I believe
So if he is non impetuos, you do 10 he does 20 with no dice: However you roll up one it's even you roll up 4 and he is close to routing. And if he rolls over you he now has 4 CPF, and persues one turn (1 more CPF I believe) - you use another unit and now he is not impetuos and tired, he now has 5@4 or 15 you roll up and he is toast. At best he has 7 units of SHK- you can have 12 of lmi and its less than half your army.
Simplistic but fun, it just relies on the orcish(sorry chinese, japanese persian etc) philosophy of life: So what if they die there are more where they came from who are not such wimps, let's see if they fight any better.

Just a thought
Robert

Noel White · Recruit Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 62

He he, better yet...
(I think there is a list that can do this)
Make an army of all LI, Sh-less for cheapness.
Nobody tests for routing friends, ever.
Everyone can evade, and interpenetrate each other freely.
You'll be able to cover the entire table with frontage, 2 or 3 units deep!
You can all hide in brush/rocks/woods etc.
When the enemy attacks, he'll rout whatever he can catch, but he'll exhaust himself destroying units that cost very little points. His flanks will become available, and that will be the end of it.

Of course, you have to paint 400+ figures of naked men ....

Noel.

Ewan McNay · Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:07 am Post subject:

Noel -

- been there, done that Smile

. Difficult to get it to work - your units are so stacked that a pursuer almost always convert-charges, and hence can't be flanked; and you interpenetrate to rout/evade off-table a lot, so pretty soon the whole army goes onto Retreat.

Not impossible, but very tough.

E

Noel White · Recruit Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 62

Did you actually paint it up?

Noel.

Ewan McNay · Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:42 am Post subject:

Well, yes and no - it was painted, but by somone much faster and more skilled than I. [As I recall, built around the LI from a Midianite.]

Frank Gilson · Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:22 pm Post subject: lots of LI

I ran (still have) an old chinese army under the old lists that ran 192 figures (12 eight element units) of Irr D LI Bow. The second line was half shielded.

The idea was to do some shooting, and have the front line die off, do a little more shooting with the second line and have some of it die. Nobody cares, enemy is terribly tired...so that now the third line of some axemen, some spearmen, some light chariots, and a bunch of Reg LMI bowmen can clean up.

Problems:
1) It took too long. The opponent could carefully engage, kill a bunch of my LI, and have a reasonable victory without losing much, if anything, by the time a tournament game finished.

2) This was back when commands just didn't demoralize. I wouldn't want to try it now that only half of a command needs to be routed before it demoralizes.

3) You really need the LI to be Irr D, or your third line won't have enough points in it, and your opponent will get too many points from each LI unit killed. You also need the LI to have a decent missile weapon so that it can reach out to 240p and damage the enemy. You need at least 96 elements of these guys...I don't think there's a modern list that meets all of these LI requirements. Is there?

Frank