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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:11 pm    Post subject:

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Christian Nubian
1604 32 scouting

CinC 2E Ir B EHC/HC L,Sh PA (EP) 172
2E Cav Ir B EHC/HC L,Sh (EP) 91
2E Elephants Ir C 2 w/ Jls 105
2E Elephants Ir C 2 w/ Jls 105
8E Spear Ir D (1C) MI LTS,Jls,D,Sh 157
4E Marines Reg C LMI Jls,S,Sh 90
4E Marines Reg C LMI Jls,S,Sh 90
4E Returning Vets Reg C LMI Jls,B,Sh 90
6E javelins Ir C LI Jls,Sh 61

Sub - 2E Ir B EHC/HC L,Sh P (EP) 109
2E Cav Ir B EHC/HC L,Sh (EP) 91
6E Light Cav Ir C LC Jls,Sh 97
4E Marines Reg C LMI Jls,S,Sh 90
4E Returning Vets Reg C LMI Jls,B,Sh 90
4E Returning Vets Reg C LMI Jls,B,Sh 90
6E slingers Ir C LI S,Sh 61

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:32 pm    Post subject:

Matt Kollmer - Ghaznavid

2 **Reg A/B HC L,B,Sh/PA 197
2 Reg B HC L,B,Sh 88 285
3 *Irr B EL JLS/P/JLS,B/PA 163
3 Irr B EL JLS/P/JLS,B 172
3 Irr B EL JLS/P/JLS,B 172

6 Irr C LC B 73
6 Irr C LC B 73
4 Reg B LHI LTS,B,Sh 138
4 Reg B LHI LTS,B,Sh 138
6 Irr B LMI JLS,SH 79
8 Irr C MI B,SH/B 105

2 Reg B LI CB,SH 30
2 Reg B LI CB,SH 30
6 Irrg C LI B 49

Indian
2 Irrg C EHC/HC L,Sh** 85
2 Irrg C EHC/HC L,Sh** 85

Scouting: 31 1604

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:35 pm    Post subject:

Scott McDonald - Kanem Borneo

CnC & 1xRgB EHC L,JLS,1/2 SH 164
Sub & 1xRgB EHC L,JLS, 1/2 SH 114
2x IrB EHC L,JLS,1/2 SH 91
2x IrB EHC L,JLS,1/2 SH 91
2x IrB S/EHC L,1/2 SH,1/2 JLS 107
6x IrB LC L,JLS,SH 121
6x IrB LC L,JLS,SH 121
2x RgB LC L,B,SH 50
2x RgB LC L,B,SH 50
2x RgB LC L,B,SH 50
4IrC/8IrD MI,JLS,6xLTS&D,3xSH 149
4RgB LMI LTS,JLS,D,SH 122
4RgB LMI LTS,JLS,D,SH 122
2RgB LMI JLS, HG SH 54
2RgB LMI JLS, HG SH 54
2RgB LMI JLS, HG SH 54
4 Rg C LI JLS SH 42
4 Rg C LI S SH 42


Total 1598

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:33 pm    Post subject: Early Paleologian NICT

2 CinC Reg A/B HK L, Sh
2 2iC Sub Reg B HK L, Sh
2 Irr B HK L, Sh
2 Irr B HK L, Sh

4 Reg C H/MC L, B, SH/L, B (Mongol)
4 Reg C H/MC L, B, SH/L, B (Mongol)
2 Reg B LC B (Mongol)
2 Reg B LC B (Mongol)
2 Reg C LC B (Mongol)

2 Reg B HC L, B, Sh (Byzantine)
2 Reg B HC L, B, Sh (Byzantine)

6 Reg D(1 C) LMI B,Sh/B
6 Reg D(1 C) LMI B,Sh/B
6 Reg D LI B, Sh/B
4 Reg C LMI JLS, B, Sh
4 Reg C LMI JLS, B, Sh
4 Reg C LMI JLS, B, Sh
4 Reg B LHI/LMI 2HCW, JLS, Sh
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:34 am    Post subject:

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my bad Ewan - missed your forwarded email in the long list of forwarded emails while I'm teaching driver's ed classroom work..... Thanks for posting it - I would have eventually found it.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:52 pm    Post subject: Re: 2019 NICT Lists

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Sorry for the delay - Life...

Our winner comes first - Dave Stier - 100 YW English

CinC+ 5 SHK/HK, L, 1/2 Sh+ PA RegB 203
6 SHK/EHK, L, Sh IrrB 124
6 SHK/EHK, L, Sh IrrB 124
6 SHK/HK, L, 1/2 Sh RegB 103
16 LMI, LB, 1/2 Sh RegC 66
16 LMI, LB, 1/2 Sh RegC 66
16 HI/MI, 2HCT/JLS, 1/2 PA IrrC 89
14 LI, B, 6 with Sh IrrC 59
12 LI, JLS, Sh IrrC 61

SubG+ 5 SHK/HK, L, 1/2 Sh+ P RegB 133
6 SHK/HK, L, 1/2 Sh RegB 103
6 SHK/HK, L, 1/2 Sh RegB 103
16 LMI, LB, 1/2 Sh RegC 66
16 LMI, LB, 1/2 Sh RegC 66
16 LMI, LB, 1/2 Sh RegC 66
16 LMI, LB, 1/2 Sh RegC 66
8 LMI, LB, Sh RegC 42
14 LI, LB, 6 with Sh IrrC 59


Hundred Years War English...a tier 1 list and operated by a top general.

Dave eschews bells and whistles of the Late period (stakes, 2HCW, LC) for a relatively clean rendition of the list in Early.

Still, he commented after the event that the Brigan unit (close foot) was not useful enough and the Irr LI JLS,Sh not either. 7 knights units appear to be crucial...as Dave was often able to have the '1 more' unit he needed.

So...drop the Brigans and the Irr C LI and replace with more LB...
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:58 pm    Post subject:

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Robert Turnbull - Alex Imperial

2 Alex L 150
2 Companions L 70
3 Sub Hc, L 100
3 elephant escorts li, b, 18
2 elephant escorts li,b 18
4 LI Reg C li, jls, sh 26
2 LI Reg C li, jls, sh 26
2 LI Reg C li, jls, sh 26
Mac El 2 Irr C El 105
LI Reg C li, jls, sh 26
LC lc jls 38
3 Mac El 2 Irr C El 105
4 Peltasts Rg c LMI LTS,jls sh 90
2 Companions Hc, L 70
7 Bactrians Lc, jls, b 95
Pk Hi/MI Pk, sh 82
Pk Hi/MI Pk, sh 82
4 Pk Hi/MI Pk, sh 82
4 Pk Hi/MI Pk, sh 82
4 Hypaspists Rg B LHI/LMI LTS,sh 110
4 Peltasts Rg c LMI LTS,jls sh 90
2 LC lc jls 38
2 LC lc jls 38
2 LC lc, jls 38
1605
55 scouting


Given the options, including better morale, Alex Imperial is probably the best pike/elephant list.

Unlike last year, where Rob took near max elephants, this year he went for more infantry (no Indian ally)...he believes this was a mistake, and I largely do too.

The infantry here are solid, but no longer the Belle of the Ball.

A dedicated Elephants plus supports is probably the best way to run these lists.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:26 pm    Post subject:

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Bill Low - Tepanec

Toltec Successor States (Tepanec) 1250-1426 (NWW on Site #7)

1 CinC as LMI 1HCW, S, Sh with PA standard + 3 Reg A LMI 1HCW, S, Sh (151)
4 SG as LMI LTS, S, Sh with P standard + 3 Reg A LMI LTS, S, Sh /3 Reg B LMI LTS, S, Sh (24) 153
4 SG as LMI LTS, S, Sh with P standard + 3 Reg A LMI LTS, S, Sh /3 Reg B LMI LTS, S, Sh (24) 153

4 Knights Reg A/B LMI LTS, S, Sh 110
4 Veteran Warriors Reg A/B LMI LTS, S, Sh 110
4 Veteran Warriors Reg A/B LMI LTS, S, Sh 110

4 Tepanec Warriors Reg C LMI 2HCT, S, Sh 106
4 Tepanec Warriors Reg C LMI 2HCT, S, Sh 106
4 Subject Warriors Reg C LMI LTS,D, Sh 90

2 Otomi Irr A LMI 2HCT,JLS,Sh/1HCW,JLS,Sh 64
2 Otomi Irr A LMI 2HCT,JLS,Sh/1HCW,JLS,Sh 64
2 Otomi Irr A LMI 2HCT,JLS,Sh/1HCW,JLS,Sh 64
2 Otomi Irr A LMI 2HCT,JLS,Sh/1HCW,JLS,Sh 64
4 Otomi Irr C LMI 1HCW,JLS,Sh 73

2 Tepanec Skirmishers Reg C LI 1HCW, S, Sh 30
2 Tepanec Skirmishers Reg C LI 1HCW, S, Sh 30
2 Tepanec Skirmishers Reg C LI 1HCW, S, Sh 30
6 Tepanec Skirmishers Reg D LI S, Sh 46
6 Tepanec Skirmishers Reg D LI S, Sh 46

Scouting: 9 1600


Bill's version of Tepanec. Nothing wrong with the way Bill chooses to do it...different from Todd...I have a slightly different version.

Bill uses a bit more LI than usual, but not too much...9 scouting does matter over 4 scouting.

He has Reg C 2HCT,S,Sh which I wouldn't use...but they are hard hitters against enemy infantry.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:40 pm    Post subject:

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Jamie White - Christian Nubian

CinC as 2 IB EHC/HC L D Sh ep PA 185
3 IC elephants, 1 driver and 1 crew JLS 145
2 ID LI S Sh / B 31
2 IB EHC/HC L D Sh ep 97
6 IC MI LTS JLS D Sh 145
6 IC MI LTS JLS D Sh 145
6 IC LI JLS D Sh 73
8 ID LI S Sh B 49
Sub as 2 RB HC L B Sh, P 125
2 RB HC L B Sh 88
6 IC LC JLS Sh 97
2 RC LMI LTS B Sh 50
2 RC LMI LTS B Sh 50
4 RC LMI JLS S Sh 90
4 RC LMI JLS S Sh 90
4 RC LMI JLS S Sh 90
2 IC LC JLS Sh 49




1599


Todd has tried to make this African Warrior list work. Jamie does here. Decent list...just hard to get past the minimums plus what you have to take.

Also, I think somewhat better morale for some infantry is available? Perhaps I'm confusing it with another list...

Frontage coverage is a little stretched, too, with minimal reserve.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:42 pm    Post subject:

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Alex Stone - 10 Independent States

2 CinC w/Reg A EHC/HC L,B,Sh/L,B 198
2 Sub w/Reg A EHC/HC L,B,Sh/L,B 128
8 Irr D MI LTS,B,Sh/LTS,B 105
8 Irr D MI LTS,B,Sh/LTS,B 105
6 Reg C MI LTS,B,Sh/LTS,B 118
6 Reg D(1C) MI LTS,B,Sh/LTS,B 98
12 Irr D MI B,Sh/B 97
6 Reg D LMI B,Sh/B 70
6 Reg D(1C) LMI B,Sh/B 74
4 Reg C HI/MI LTS,1FL,Sh/LTS,1FL 98
4 Reg C HI/MI LTS,1FL,Sh/LTS,1FL 98
2 Irr C El crew 3 w/B 115
2 Irr C El crew 3 w/B 115
2 Irr A LMI JLS,Sh 55
2 Irr A LMI JLS,Sh 55
2 Reg D LI B 18
2 Reg D LI B 18
2 Reg D LI B 18
2 Reg D LI B 18

1601


Alex employs a very solid version of the Asian spearbow armies here.

Solid, generally speaking, there can be some matchup problems as there were when Alex had to fight me in round 1 with Elamite.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:47 pm    Post subject:

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Jake Kovel - Alexandrian Macedonian

CinC, HC, L + 2x HC, L, Reg A 150
Companions 2x HC, L, Reg A 70
Thessalians 2x HC, JLS, Reg B 64
Thessalians 2x HC, JLS, Reg B 64
Prodromoi 3x LC, L, Reg B 52
2inC, LHI, LTS, SH + 1x LMI LTS, SH Reg A 98
Hypaspists 1x HI, P, SH + 3x MI, P, SH Reg B 98
Phalangites 1x HI, P, SH + 3x MI, P, SH Reg C 82
Phalangites 1x HI, P, SH + 3x MI, P, SH Reg C 82
Phalangites 1x HI, P, SH + 3x MI, P, SH Reg C 82
Phalangites 1x HI, P, SH + 3x MI, P, SH Reg C 82
Greek Peltasts 4x LMI, LTS, JLS, SH Reg C 90
Greek Peltasts 4x LMI, LTS, JLS, SH Reg C 90
Greek Peltasts 4x LMI, LTS, JLS, SH Reg C 90
Paionians 4x LC, JLS, Irr C 49
Sub, HC, L + 2x HC, L, Reg A 100
Rhodian Slingers 3x LI, S, SH, Reg C 34
Agrianians 6x LI, JLS, SH Reg C 58
Agrianians 6x LI, JLS, SH Reg C 58
Cretans 3x LI, B, Sh + 3x LI, B, Reg C 52
Cretans 3x LI, B, Sh + 3x LI, B, Reg C 52
1597


Jake plays what he wants, his way, and effectively.

However, this army at this point is just a collection of solid guys...without the traditional elephants of Imperial or Seleucid...I don't think there's enough here here.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:58 pm    Post subject:

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Mark Stone - Later Palaiologan Byzantine

2 CinC, Reg A/B EHK/HK L,Sh 207
2 Sub, Reg B EHK/HK L,Sh 133
2 Ally, Irr A SHK/EHK L,Sh 166
3 Reg B/C HK/HC L,Sh 109
2 Irr A SHK/EHK L,Sh 130
2 Irr A SHK/EHK L,Sh 130
2 Reg C LC JLS,B/B 38
2 Reg C LC JLS,B/B 38
2 Reg C LC JLS,B/B 38
4 Reg B LHI/LMI 2HCW,JLS,Sh 122
6 Reg D LI B,Sh/B 40
6 Reg D LI B,Sh/B 40
6 Reg D(1C) LMI B,Sh/B 74
6 Reg D(1C) LMI B,Sh/B 74
4 Reg C LMI JLS,B,Sh 90
4 Reg C LMI JLS,B,Sh 90
6 Reg D LMI B,Sh 82



1601


Solid 'new' old list after the revision to Holy Warrior. The main attraction being the Irr A SHK available...plus solid regular loose foot.

Mark has said he felt the Reg D LMI B,Sh unit was one too many...and I personally don't like Reg C 2E light cav units...but this is a solid list. Look for more in the future.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:00 pm    Post subject:

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Derek Downs - Dahomey

2 LMI LTS SH RA/B Pst 148
4 LMI LTS HG SH RB/4RA 102
4 LMI LTS HG SH RB/4RA 102
4 LMI LTS HG SH RB/4RA 102
4 LMI LTS D SH RB 106
4 LMI LTS D SH RB 106
4 LMI LTS D SH RB 106
4 LMI LTS D SH RB 106
4 LMI LTS D SH RB 106
12 MI B ID 73
12 MI B ID 73
4 LMI B RD 42
4 LMI B RD 42
2 LI HG RC 22
2 LI HG RC 22
2 LI HG RC 22
2 LI HG RC 22
2 LI HG RC 22
2 LI HG RC 22
2 LI HG RC 22
2 LI HG RC 22
2 LI B RC 22
2 LI B RC 22
2 LI B RC 22
2 LI B RC 22
4 LMI JLS SH RD 4 RC 62
4 LMI JLS SH RD 4 RC 62
1602


Another Derek experiment...following his typical pattern...a ton of units, one general, LI in 2E units, regulars.

There's no punch here...and no mounted...so Derek is relying on shooting density while his flood of LI units frustrate the opponent.

However, his flood of LI units don't get anything much more done but delay of game plus give the opponent a guaranteed 1 point at least.

He spoke of being frustrated with the army...so I think we'll see him return with some mounted in his army.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:03 pm    Post subject:

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Sean Scott - Communal Italian

1E Reg A HK, L, Sh PA 158
1E Transport S 30
2E Reg A/C HK L, Sh P 124
2E Reg C HK L, Sh 82
2E Reg C HK L, Sh 82
2E Ir B/D HK L Sh 85
2E Reg C SHC L, Sh 122
2E Reg C SHC L, Sh 122
2E Ir A/B HK L, Sh 94
2E Ir A/B HK L, Sh 94
2E Reg D LC XB 30
2E Reg D LC XB 30
2E Reg D LC XB 30
2E Reg D LC XB 30
2E Reg B HI 0.5 THCW 0.5 JLS Sh 66
4E Reg D LMI JLS SH 58
4E Reg D LMI JLS SH 58
4E Reg D LMI JLS SH 58
6E Reg D LMI XB 58
6E Reg D LMI XB 58
6E Reg D LMI XB 58
12E Ir D LMI JLS, SH, JLS, B 73
1600


Sean works hard to take garbage like this and turn it into victories.

This, however, is a new low, even for him. Just look at the trash troops!

The heavy terrain featured in the NCT is something he repeatedly takes advantage of...with our all-star troop type, regular loose foot.
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