Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[joncleaves]

I cannot answer these questions without a real diagram. Can you use the
templates I put on the group to show these charges?


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[joncleaves]

I find it easier to visualize using the powerpoint elements. AND I don't
want other readers to have to hunt through mails like I did to answer this.
AND I don't want to have to cut diagrams from previous mails in to answers to
keep them consolidated. But this once, for you, Kurt...


> To take this further, if C's charge wasn't canceled, it would move into
> contact with B's flank. Now, next in combat direction is unit D. It
> declared
> a charge on unit A, but since unit C moved into (and ended there in this
> case) its charge path, C is also considered charged and can be contacted.
>
> Question: Does D have to make contact with its original target if possible
> (A in this case) if it can reach, or can it stop as soon as it reaches C?
>

Ok, I don't know who these guys are and it matters, but if D reaches C before
it gets to A, it contacts C.

> Question: Can D wheel to AVOID C in order to make contact with D (whether it
> could contact both A and D at once, or not)? Or does D have to make contact
> with as many as possible?
>

In another mail you tell me you mean 'make contact with A'.
D could only wheel at the outset (and with that wheel establish its charge
path) so, no, if I understand the question.

> Question: If A can no longer be reached after C moves into the charge path
> of D, is D's charge on A canceled (because it can no longer reach)? If it
> is, then this cancelation occurs after units move charges (I was under the
> impression that charges are canceledd BEFORE charge moves are made)?
>
>

No. The second question mark is not preceded by a question.





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[joncleaves]

Ok, help me to determine the best and most efficient way to share diagrams of
rules questions situations, if not powerpoint or in text ascii...


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[joncleaves]

> > >
> > > Question: Does D have to make contact with its original target if
> possible
> > > (A in this case) if it can reach, or can it stop as soon as it reaches
> C?
> > >
> >
> > Ok, I don't know who these guys are and it matters, but if D reaches C
> before
> > it gets to A, it contacts C.
> >
>
> The question though was if D MUST, if at all possible, move into contact
> with A. Are you saying that once C is reached it doesn't HAVE to make
> contact with A (even if it still could via echeloning)?>>


No. Voluntary at that point.

>
> > > Question: If A can no longer be reached after C moves into the charge
> path
> > > of D, is D's charge on A canceled (because it can no longer reach)? If
> it
> > > is, then this cancelation occurs after units move charges (I was under
> the
> > > impression that charges are canceledd BEFORE charge moves are made)?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > No. The second question mark is not preceded by a question.
>
> The second question mark was a 'am I right' type question.
>
>

You are if I understand what you are saying.


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To take this further, if C's charge wasn't canceled, it would move into
contact with B's flank. Now, next in combat direction is unit D. It declared
a charge on unit A, but since unit C moved into (and ended there in this
case) its charge path, C is also considered charged and can be contacted.

Question: Does D have to make contact with its original target if possible
(A in this case) if it can reach, or can it stop as soon as it reaches C?

Question: Can D wheel to AVOID C in order to make contact with D (whether it
could contact both A and D at once, or not)? Or does D have to make contact
with as many as possible?

Question: If A can no longer be reached after C moves into the charge path
of D, is D's charge on A canceled (because it can no longer reach)? If it
is, then this cancelation occurs after units move charges (I was under the
impression that charges are canceledd BEFORE charge moves are made)?



----- Original Message -----
From: <JonCleaves@...>
To: <WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Canceled Charges???


> <<So where on the table is C located after its charge is cancelled? Is
> C moved to the point where it would enter D's path and then halted,
> or do they conceptually become aware of the fact that D is going to
> hit them if they move and respond by cancelling their charge before
> the move at all?>>
>
> A body that has its charge cancelled does not charge.....
>
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I phrased this one wrong. I meant could D wheel to avoid C in order to make
contact with "A" (not D).

>
> Question: Can D wheel to AVOID C in order to make contact with D (whether
it
> could contact both A and D at once, or not)? Or does D have to make
contact
> with as many as possible?

Jon, it's easy to visualize:

.............AAAA

BBBB..............CC
........................CC
...........DDDD

A, B and D all face North (top of page)
C faces West (left of page) in a block 2E x 2E.




----- Original Message -----
From: <JonCleaves@...>
To: <WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Canceled Charges???


> I cannot answer these questions without a real diagram. Can you use the
> templates I put on the group to show these charges?
>
>
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I can't use powerpoint files anyway, Jon. ;)



----- Original Message -----
From: <JonCleaves@...>
To: <WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Canceled Charges???


> I find it easier to visualize using the powerpoint elements. AND I don't
> want other readers to have to hunt through mails like I did to answer
this.
> AND I don't want to have to cut diagrams from previous mails in to answers
to
> keep them consolidated. But this once, for you, Kurt...
>
>
> > To take this further, if C's charge wasn't canceled, it would move into
> > contact with B's flank. Now, next in combat direction is unit D. It
> > declared
> > a charge on unit A, but since unit C moved into (and ended there in this
> > case) its charge path, C is also considered charged and can be
contacted.
> >
> > Question: Does D have to make contact with its original target if
possible
> > (A in this case) if it can reach, or can it stop as soon as it reaches
C?
> >
>
> Ok, I don't know who these guys are and it matters, but if D reaches C
before
> it gets to A, it contacts C.
>
> > Question: Can D wheel to AVOID C in order to make contact with D
(whether it
> > could contact both A and D at once, or not)? Or does D have to make
contact
> > with as many as possible?
> >
>
> In another mail you tell me you mean 'make contact with A'.
> D could only wheel at the outset (and with that wheel establish its charge
> path) so, no, if I understand the question.
>
> > Question: If A can no longer be reached after C moves into the charge
path
> > of D, is D's charge on A canceled (because it can no longer reach)? If
it
> > is, then this cancelation occurs after units move charges (I was under
the
> > impression that charges are canceledd BEFORE charge moves are made)?
> >
> >
>
> No. The second question mark is not preceded by a question.
>
>
>
>
>
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>

> >
> > Question: Does D have to make contact with its original target if
possible
> > (A in this case) if it can reach, or can it stop as soon as it reaches
C?
> >
>
> Ok, I don't know who these guys are and it matters, but if D reaches C
before
> it gets to A, it contacts C.
>

The question though was if D MUST, if at all possible, move into contact
with A. Are you saying that once C is reached it doesn't HAVE to make
contact with A (even if it still could via echeloning)?

> > Question: If A can no longer be reached after C moves into the charge
path
> > of D, is D's charge on A canceled (because it can no longer reach)? If
it
> > is, then this cancelation occurs after units move charges (I was under
the
> > impression that charges are canceledd BEFORE charge moves are made)?
> >
> >
>
> No. The second question mark is not preceded by a question.

The second question mark was a 'am I right' type question.