Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[Kelly Wilkinson]

Boyd,

Play Saitic Egyptians -- You get loads of hoplites with a decent supporting
cast that includes 4 horse Heavy Chariots!

Kelly

spocksleftball@... wrote:

I have decided to try my hand again at hoplites. Since both of my previous 7th
edition hoplite armies were terrible failures--play to survive and not win--I'm
thinking that it is something I'm doing wrong.

Thus I come to you, list members, for some advice on how to develop and game a
winning list.

Here are some problems I've encountered and need to overcome:

1. shieldless Cav are always a routing missile through my troops. It seems that
no matter how hard I try to keep them out of battle, they always end up routing
passed uneasy C hoplites.

2. how can I keep my hoplites easy when the supporting units are so fragile?

3. I've tried charging, charging impetouos (when irreg), standing to receive,
but none of these tactics wins against LMI J/sh impetouos. What can I do other
than stand on a hill to make the hoplites less disorderable?

4. What is the optimum close order unit size? I usually try to keep them in
blocks of 8 elements, but size and formation optimization seem to allude me.
two deep they get double hit (once per two bound period) and they break. 4 deep
they don't count enough figures to absorb punishment. Any thoughts?

5. What type of terrain makes for the securest flanks. With weak LI that will
be unsupported in most instances, how can one ensure flank comfort with the slow
plodding hoplites?

TIA

Wanax




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Well, after a full day of interesting and useful advise, I wandered into the
garage to pull out my WRG books and annotated NASAMW amended lists. Lo! They
are not there! I spent an hour ramsacking my wargame shelving and game area
only to find a number of rules books missing. Could it be that while on active
duty, and my wife moving us to a new house, that a box of stuff went missing?
Oh well, until I find them, could someone kindly forward both the hoplite and
Syracusan lists to me, please? TIA
Wanax

kelly wilkinson <jwilkinson62@...> wrote:
Boyd,

Play Saitic Egyptians -- You get loads of hoplites with a decent supporting
cast that includes 4 horse Heavy Chariots!

Kelly

spocksleftball@... wrote:

I have decided to try my hand again at hoplites. Since both of my previous 7th
edition hoplite armies were terrible failures--play to survive and not win--I'm
thinking that it is something I'm doing wrong.

Thus I come to you, list members, for some advice on how to develop and game a
winning list.

Here are some problems I've encountered and need to overcome:

1. shieldless Cav are always a routing missile through my troops. It seems that
no matter how hard I try to keep them out of battle, they always end up routing
passed uneasy C hoplites.

2. how can I keep my hoplites easy when the supporting units are so fragile?

3. I've tried charging, charging impetouos (when irreg), standing to receive,
but none of these tactics wins against LMI J/sh impetouos. What can I do other
than stand on a hill to make the hoplites less disorderable?

4. What is the optimum close order unit size? I usually try to keep them in
blocks of 8 elements, but size and formation optimization seem to allude me.
two deep they get double hit (once per two bound period) and they break. 4 deep
they don't count enough figures to absorb punishment. Any thoughts?

5. What type of terrain makes for the securest flanks. With weak LI that will
be unsupported in most instances, how can one ensure flank comfort with the slow
plodding hoplites?

TIA

Wanax




Lord of the Meadehall of men! Aknowledged professional sack lounger. Creator
of semi-lifeforms in their millions. The good looking twin, though sinister in
thought and deed. He who would produce but for 7 years of inactivity punctuated
by frenzied finger touching. Smooth.

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