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The Non-missile army
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John Murphy
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 8:03 am    Post subject: Re: The Non-missile army


Yes! Now the Murphy's get to beat their besotted chests!

Murphy's are originally sea-warriors, hence maybe more Norse than
Irish (horrible to admit). The fact my particular branch is from Cork
doesn't bode well either!

So the problem problem is, typical of us Irish (and Norse for that
matter), we don't know which side we are fighting on, just want to
get some licks in anyway!

And Jamie, what is this Erin Gobra stuff? I thought that was an Irish
thing!

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, Mark Stone <mark@d...> wrote:
> Boran Norse-Irish

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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: The Non-missile army


More seriously, I have actually looked at these, and their non-Boran
Norse-Irish opponents. Daunting to paint close to 250 figures for a
1600 point army.

This army needs lots of woods real badly, duh I know. Not too many
troops that are going to last long in combat, although I like the 12E
units. Going to be outscouted and probably outmarched and
outmaneuvered, but maybe terrain can help here too a bit.

The good thing I think about 2HCW/JLS combo is the stuff that defeats
JLS like heavy armor typically doesn't hurt 2HCW as bad and vice
versa the stuff that defeats 2HCW like dispersed troops typically
suffers against JLS. And Elephants don't like either (especially JLS
in numbers) so this is a great anti-elephant army. So this weapon
combo can actually beat a lot of stuff.

By and large the morale is real good so a cavalry army better come
ready to fight and not count on you just blowing waver tests.

Problems I see are (a) just plain non-maneuverability laterally
despite forward speed and (b) lack of staying power in HtH. Is there
really enough here to adequately cover the whole board and not
present any inviting gaps? With enough reserves to be able to respond
when a unit _does_ break (and it does happen to Irreg loose foot
fighting shieldless in subsequent bounds) and prevent it opening up
interior flanks?

Given the non-lateral nature of the army I would be tempted to say
heck with maneuver and just bulk up more 12E units to keep them
lasting longer. Less command points wasted and when you fight a 1E
frontage enemy you still get the extra half-figure. Not like you have
to save mounted charge fatigue, nor are you short on "shock" units.
But I don't know the way you have them typed out wether that is an
option for you.

Wanna play them against the Poles? Nah, you'd _still_ probably kick
my butt!

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, Mark Stone <mark@d...> wrote:
> Boran Norse-Irish
> Cinc w/2 stands Irr A LHI 2HCW,JLS,Sh 1 stand Irr B LHI 2HCW,JLS,Sh
> Sub w/2 stands Irr A LHI 2HCW,JLS,Sh 1 stand Irr B LHI 2HCW,JLS,Sh
> 1x 4 stands Irr B LHI 2HCW,JLS,Sh
> 3x 12 stands Irr B/C LMI 2HCW,JLS,Sh/JLS,Sh
> 2x 6 stands Irr C LI JLS,Sh
> 1x 8 stands Irr C LI S,Sh
> 1x 4 stands Irr A LMI JLS,Sh
> Allygen w/4 stands Irr B LHI 2HCW,Sh 1 stand Irr B LMI JLS,Sh
> 1x 2 stands Irr B LMI JLS,Sh, 6 stands Irr C LMI JLS,Sh
> 2x 2 stands Irr B LHI 2HCW,B,Sh/JLS,B,Sh

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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 3:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Re: The Non-missile army


J. Murphy wrote:

> Yes! Now the Murphy's get to beat their besotted chests!
>
> Murphy's are originally sea-warriors, hence maybe more Norse than
> Irish (horrible to admit). The fact my particular branch is from Cork
> doesn't bode well either!

:) The McNays were kicked out of Ireland around 914 after being
on the wrong side of one too many battles, then lived on
MacGregor land as long as they fought for them - hence we get to
wear the MacGregor tartan, and can claim to be either Scots or
Irish as needed!

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