Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[Mike Bard]

Ooops!

I thought it was Far East for Cold Wars 2005, Classical for Cold Wars 2006.
I'll be glad to help.

Michael Bard
That Greek Hoplite Guy


> In a message dated 3/25/2004 21:59:18 Central Standard Time,
> mwbard@... writes:
> . To playtest Hoplites vs. Persians for the Classical Warrior book in two
> years.
> Better get on it - Classical Warrior will be out before Cold War 05...lol
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> But we'd like you to be one of our list reviewers when we start work on
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[joncleaves]

In a message dated 3/26/2004 00:49:57 Central Standard Time,
Jrb107usa@... writes:
good oppertunity for
warrior players to draw some attention to rules set and to promote
the Clasical Warrior Army Lists.Everybody loves hoplites.(I think it
will be for sale by then?)>>

while we have not started Classical Warrior yet, we will make available draft
copies of the two lists involved as soon as we can so you guys can use those
for planning.


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[Mike Bard]

Two things:

1. For a direct 50:1 translation about 1000 hoplites are needed, 600
Persians, and large amounts of lights. I will scale this appropriately once
I have a better idea of what figures are available.

2. At this point I think that this game will take the entire weekend. Setup
Thursday night, play Friday and Saturday, and toast the victors on Sunday.
Note that there will be over 10,000 points per side. Table size will
probably be 6' by 18' or more -- again I'll have a better idea once I get an
idea of the number of figures available. Terrain will be based on table
size and scale -- again I'll have a better idea once I get an idea of the
number of figures available.

Yes, this will conflict with the doubles tournament on Saturday. From my
POV though, Warrior is not only about tournament play. I very much do NOT
want this to be like a tournament game -- if it goes that route then it'll
never be finished. Now, if there are a shortage of people and a couple want
to go to the doubles on Saturday instead than something could likely be
arranged.

Michael Bard
That Greek Hoplite Guy


> Hello everyone, For this mega battle,if we get it off the ground. We
> all should know just how big we want this to be. Maybe four tables?
> (5x16) How many players? a order of battle and what terrain we will
> need.I suppose this game will be played on fridaynight around 7pm-
> 11pm or so.We don;t want to interfear with The team play competition
> on saturday. with that said, this could be a good oppertunity for
> warrior players to draw some attention to rules set and to promote
> the Clasical Warrior Army Lists.Everybody loves hoplites.(I think it
> will be for sale by then?)How many figures will be needed? Micheal,
> do you have any idea? Exsample( 15 units of 24 figures for the Greek
> heavy foot, 8 units of 12 Greek light inf. the Persains might be 8
> units of 24 heavy foot, 6 units of 6 HC.6 units 8 LC.) Once we have a
> order of battle, then players who are interested can contribute
> figures.(NOT A REQURIMENT) for that army or command. I have a very
> large Early Persain army and a Later Persain army along with a huge
> collection OF GREEK HOPLITES. With this mega game being about a year
> away, We still have some time to plan this. If there is enough
> interest. Any questions or sugestions please post or emil me. Jim

[joncleaves]

In a message dated 3/26/2004 10:38:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,
mwbard@... writes:

> Yes, this will conflict with the doubles tournament on Saturday. From my
> POV though, Warrior is not only about tournament play. I very much do NOT
> want this to be like a tournament game -- if it goes that route then it'll
> never be finished. Now, if there are a shortage of people and a couple want
> to go to the doubles on Saturday instead than something
> could likely be
> arranged.>>


Michael, I soooo support what you said here. Additionally, I think one way to
go would be to find a couple overall commanders who will play all weekend and
then let subcommanders play by day.

[scott holder]

I'm certainly flexible. Each side doesn't have to have the same players the
entire weekend. For instance, let's say you have the Persian side and the Greek
side. Some of the players could play in teams on Saturday and do the first day
of Platea on Friday. Then the other part of the "side" could take the other
day. That way everybody gets at least one tourney in while getting to
participate in something else really cool. Plus, you either set something up
for your side to do the next day or try to salvage some mess your predecessors
leave you:):)

Again, I'll be very flexible with inserting folks into various tourneys if it'll
facilitate participation in this non-tourney event. We can make this happen.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Bard [mailto:mwbard@...]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 9:38 AM
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Replaying Platea


Two things:

1. For a direct 50:1 translation about 1000 hoplites are needed, 600
Persians, and large amounts of lights. I will scale this appropriately once
I have a better idea of what figures are available.

2. At this point I think that this game will take the entire weekend. Setup
Thursday night, play Friday and Saturday, and toast the victors on Sunday.
Note that there will be over 10,000 points per side. Table size will
probably be 6' by 18' or more -- again I'll have a better idea once I get an
idea of the number of figures available. Terrain will be based on table
size and scale -- again I'll have a better idea once I get an idea of the
number of figures available.

Yes, this will conflict with the doubles tournament on Saturday. From my
POV though, Warrior is not only about tournament play. I very much do NOT
want this to be like a tournament game -- if it goes that route then it'll
never be finished. Now, if there are a shortage of people and a couple want
to go to the doubles on Saturday instead than something could likely be
arranged.

Michael Bard
That Greek Hoplite Guy


> Hello everyone, For this mega battle,if we get it off the ground. We
> all should know just how big we want this to be. Maybe four tables?
> (5x16) How many players? a order of battle and what terrain we will
> need.I suppose this game will be played on fridaynight around 7pm-
> 11pm or so.We don;t want to interfear with The team play competition
> on saturday. with that said, this could be a good oppertunity for
> warrior players to draw some attention to rules set and to promote
> the Clasical Warrior Army Lists.Everybody loves hoplites.(I think it
> will be for sale by then?)How many figures will be needed? Micheal,
> do you have any idea? Exsample( 15 units of 24 figures for the Greek
> heavy foot, 8 units of 12 Greek light inf. the Persains might be 8
> units of 24 heavy foot, 6 units of 6 HC.6 units 8 LC.) Once we have a
> order of battle, then players who are interested can contribute
> figures.(NOT A REQURIMENT) for that army or command. I have a very
> large Early Persain army and a Later Persain army along with a huge
> collection OF GREEK HOPLITES. With this mega game being about a year
> away, We still have some time to plan this. If there is enough
> interest. Any questions or sugestions please post or emil me. Jim




Yahoo! Groups Links

Michael, In 25mm at 50:1 ratio with 10,000 Greek hoplites. That will
be 40 units of 24 figs per unit. That in its self will stretch more
then 21 feet across shoulder to shoulder.Not counting the terrain or
the light troops.Maybe A 100:1 ratio will be more playable. Also,
idealy there should be one player commander for every 7-9 units. That
means alot of players(Hopefuly familiar with the rules)To move things
along. Players might be tougher to aquire then the figures.We will
need more then a few volunteers even to attempt this.(Any volunteers)
Anyway i will take a inventory of my Persains and Greek figures.
Anybody have questions or suggestions, please cherp in. jim

[Mike Bard]

The 50:1 ratio is just the standard Warrior ratio and I'm going to start
crunching numbers (and table size, and command size, and players) once I
have an idea of the figures available. As to players, the Greek side should
probably have 10-12 Ally Generals if we're going to be historical... I
don't have as much information on the Persian side (I only know of two).

Of course, the nice thing about having 1000 hoplites is that we could put
down all the figures in an Athenian tribe at a 1:1 ratio just to take some
pictures of...

Michael Bard
That Greek Hoplite Guy


> Michael, In 25mm at 50:1 ratio with 10,000 Greek hoplites. That will
> be 40 units of 24 figs per unit. That in its self will stretch more
> then 21 feet across shoulder to shoulder.Not counting the terrain or
> the light troops.Maybe A 100:1 ratio will be more playable. Also,
> idealy there should be one player commander for every 7-9 units. That
> means alot of players(Hopefuly familiar with the rules)To move things
> along. Players might be tougher to aquire then the figures.We will
> need more then a few volunteers even to attempt this.(Any volunteers)
> Anyway i will take a inventory of my Persains and Greek figures.
> Anybody have questions or suggestions, please cherp in. jim

[joncleaves]

In a message dated 3/26/2004 2:23:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, mwbard@...
writes:

> The 50:1 ratio is just the standard Warrior ratio >>

Actually it is nominally 1:50 with a range of 35-85...

I'm with Jim, 1:85 or 1:100 would seem to be better from a playability
standpoint.