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joncleaves
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Re: Rule Question: Swiss recoil


In a message dated 12/8/2005 16:13:23 Central Standard Time,
greg.regets@... writes:

I'm curious as to why you feel this way.

g



--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "Adrian Williams"
<fredthebaddy@h...> wrote:
>
> I do not like the whole invention of LEHI - I think it is
> unnecessary and undesirable.
>
> The list rules as such I don't have any problem with.
>
> ANW>>

Me too. It has been one of our most successful moves.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Re: Rule Question: Swiss recoil


Here's a question for you Todd. How is it that a twelve element imitation
legionaire(mi/hi) unit can have it's charge cancelled by a 2 element Mi
barbarian unit? It just seems silly doesn't it?

k

Todd Schneider <thresh1642@...> wrote:
That same argument could be made for every unit out
there that has the "3cpf" rule as well...all they have
to do is become Regular (or Irr) B and there would be
no need for the rule.

Todd

--- Tim Grimmett <grimmetttim@...> wrote:

> In Warrior terms this means they pass their waver,
> which they should do 5/6 times.
>
> Todd Schneider <thresh1642@...> wrote:
> Sigh...must read before hitting send..
>
> Anways, the Swiss were some of the premier heavy
> Infantry of the day, and did have a reputation for
> withstanding bowfire, right?
>
> Todd (the Hasty)...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:58 am    Post subject: Re: Rule Question: Swiss recoil


I do not like the whole invention of LEHI - I think it is
unnecessary and undesirable.

The list rules as such I don't have any problem with.

ANW

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "scsabrecoach"
<scsabrecoach@y...> wrote:
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> Greetings Adrian,
> I will bite, what is the scam regarding the japanese list?
>
> --- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "Adrian Williams"
<fredthebaddy@h...> wrote:
> >
> > Unusually with Geoff's post he is complaining that the Swiss
list
> > rules are too good - and he is a mad player of the Swiss - he is
> > trying to down his own army not someone elses.
> >
> > It is the Japanese I reckon are the biggest list scam in the game
> >
> > ANW
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:06 am    Post subject: Re: Rule Question: Swiss recoil


I'm curious as to why you feel this way.

g



--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "Adrian Williams"
<fredthebaddy@h...> wrote:
>
> I do not like the whole invention of LEHI - I think it is
> unnecessary and undesirable.
>
> The list rules as such I don't have any problem with.
>
> ANW
>
> --- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "scsabrecoach"
> <scsabrecoach@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings Adrian,
> > I will bite, what is the scam regarding the japanese list?
> >
> > --- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "Adrian Williams"
> <fredthebaddy@h...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Unusually with Geoff's post he is complaining that the Swiss
> list
> > > rules are too good - and he is a mad player of the Swiss - he
is
> > > trying to down his own army not someone elses.
> > >
> > > It is the Japanese I reckon are the biggest list scam in the
game
> > >
> > > ANW
> > >
> >
>

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:27 am    Post subject: Re: Rule Question: Swiss recoil


Greetings Adrian,
LEHI still have all the flaws of loose order. They do move a bit better than
EHI but that was accurate for Samurai.
TD

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "Adrian Williams" <fredthebaddy@h...>
wrote:
>
> I do not like the whole invention of LEHI - I think it is
> unnecessary and undesirable.
>
> The list rules as such I don't have any problem with.
>
> ANW
>

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:49 am    Post subject: Re: Re: Rule Question: Swiss recoil


Medieval Warrior has been out for some time.

Now, if I were complaining the say after it was
availabl commercially, you'd have a point.

Todd

--- John <jjmurphy@...> wrote:

> not.
>
> in fact, the greatest victory over the swiss came at
> the hands of
> those wonderful chivalric Free Companies for which
> Mark Stone has such
> a historical appreciation and most especially their
> English, Gascon
> and Burgundian longbowmen.
>
> i'm happy with the way warrior models this, at
> least, and in general
> would say geez the ink is only just barely dry on
> the game how about
> we give it some time in its current form before we
> start lobbying for
> the warrior 2.0
>
> > Todd Schneider <thresh1642@y...> wrote:
> Sigh...must read before
> hitting send..
> >
> > Anways, the Swiss were some of the premier heavy
> > Infantry of the day, and did have a reputation for
> > withstanding bowfire, right?
>
>
>
>
>
>


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Rule Question: Swiss recoil


feudWar was out maybe 2-3 years ago, that is not actually a whole
lot of time and when weighed against other lists that have been much
more recently published i'd hope it was given some time before
wholesale changes were made.

i foolishly bought all the following...
dbm 1.3 march 1996
dbm 2.0 october 1997
dbm 3.0 july 2000
the rules had been 'stable' after that until now, a whopping 5 yrs
but most of the time they were being re-issued every 1-3 yrs
dbm army lists june 1993 - june 1994
dbm army lists v2 november 1998 - july 2000
so the army lists change every 5-6 yrs

the above is _not_ an enviable corporate record for fhe to follow,
and given the work that went into the warrior army lists scott and
co would probably drop from exhaustion to keep it up, in a way it
was bad enough that NWW was re-done almost immediately but at least
most of the errata in the 'paying' lists is of a typo or consistency
across-lists nature

a much better model of consistency is that, for the most part, the
current rules have changed only a bit since wrg 7.6 and in many ways
only a little since wrg 7.0, and that until now the army lists from
6th ed (1981-1982) were still being used 24 years later

okay, 24 years (and one major revolutionary ruleset change) made
them kind of moldy oldies but the point is that the time since
feudWar was published is _nothing_ relative to that kind of
consistent play

i don't think we have even really gone all the way thru an entire
rock-paper-scissors (or Burmese-LIR-Teuts) 'cycle' on the national
level since darkAgeWar came out, let alone feudWar

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, Todd Schneider
<thresh1642@y...> wrote:
>
> Medieval Warrior has been out for some time.
>
> Now, if I were complaining the say after it was
> availabl commercially, you'd have a point.
>
> Todd
>
> --- John <jjmurphy@s...> wrote:
>
> > not.
> >
> > in fact, the greatest victory over the swiss came at
> > the hands of
> > those wonderful chivalric Free Companies for which
> > Mark Stone has such
> > a historical appreciation and most especially their
> > English, Gascon
> > and Burgundian longbowmen.
> >
> > i'm happy with the way warrior models this, at
> > least, and in general
> > would say geez the ink is only just barely dry on
> > the game how about
> > we give it some time in its current form before we
> > start lobbying for
> > the warrior 2.0
> >
> > > Todd Schneider <thresh1642@y...> wrote:
> > Sigh...must read before
> > hitting send..
> > >
> > > Anways, the Swiss were some of the premier heavy
> > > Infantry of the day, and did have a reputation for
> > > withstanding bowfire, right?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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