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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 8:39 am    Post subject: 2HCT list rules question.


Scott,

Got my copy of the Feudal Warrior and have really enjoyed looking
through it.

I noticed that several of the Feudal armies with 2HCT have a list
rule stating

"Steady , non-impetuous foot armed with 2hct and no other H-T-H
weapon fight 1.5 ranks."

Many of the the armies that were introduced in Holy Warrior have
troops that are similarly armed. Serbian Krayishnici, Later Ottoman
Janissaries & Yamaks, etc...

Will these lists get updated on the FHE web-site?

Does this rule apply to all 2HCT armed close order troops?

If yes, should this simply be an addition to section 9.22 of the
rules?

If not, what is the general criteria for this option?

Thanks,

Gilles Hudelot

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 5:08 pm    Post subject: RE: 2HCT list rules question.


Right now, it does not apply across the board. In fact, there are few instances
prior to FeudWar that have troops types to which this might apply.

I might add that this is an x-rule in one form or another. I'd strongly urge
folks who want to make this universal to get some agreement among your playing
group about its usage.

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Subject: [WarriorRules] 2HCT list rules question.


Scott,

Got my copy of the Feudal Warrior and have really enjoyed looking
through it.

I noticed that several of the Feudal armies with 2HCT have a list
rule stating

"Steady , non-impetuous foot armed with 2hct and no other H-T-H
weapon fight 1.5 ranks."

Many of the the armies that were introduced in Holy Warrior have
troops that are similarly armed. Serbian Krayishnici, Later Ottoman
Janissaries & Yamaks, etc...

Will these lists get updated on the FHE web-site?

Does this rule apply to all 2HCT armed close order troops?

If yes, should this simply be an addition to section 9.22 of the
rules?

If not, what is the general criteria for this option?

Thanks,

Gilles Hudelot



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: 2HCT list rules question.


I have only ONE game of experience with the new rule (with Early Polish and
German ally), so this is NOT a statistical meaningful sample. I used a 4E
body of Irr HI/MI 2HCT,Sh/2HCT. When I got to charge range I went impetuous
and shed the rule! I know a lot of cases where the 1.5 will come into play,
and I will be using it for awhile to get a feel. I just thought it was kind
interesting that I built the unit to use the list rule, then abandoned it!

Don


> Right now, it does not apply across the board. In fact, there are few
instances prior to FeudWar that have troops types to which this might apply.
>
> I might add that this is an x-rule in one form or another. I'd strongly
urge folks who want to make this universal to get some agreement among your
playing group about its usage.

> Scott,
>
> Got my copy of the Feudal Warrior and have really enjoyed looking
> through it.
>
> I noticed that several of the Feudal armies with 2HCT have a list
> rule stating
>
> "Steady , non-impetuous foot armed with 2hct and no other H-T-H
> weapon fight 1.5 ranks."
>
> Many of the the armies that were introduced in Holy Warrior have
> troops that are similarly armed. Serbian Krayishnici, Later Ottoman
> Janissaries & Yamaks, etc...

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 7:15 am    Post subject: Re: 2HCT list rules question.


Scott,

Sorry, I was trying to be a little to subtle with my prior question.

Essentially I'm asking you to update the FHE site lists for my Later
Hungarians and Wallachians so that my Armati and my Voynuks can kick
even more ass. :)

essentially there are a few lists from Holly Warrior that have troops
from same time period, and similar geographical location and
therefore I assume similar weapons and techniques.

As far as I could find these include

22. Later Ottoman Turk - Janissaries, Yamak Halberdiers & Voynuks.
24. Knights of St. John - Mercenary Infantry
34. Later Hungarian - Armati
35. Wallachian or Moldavian - Voynuks

Please let me know if I missed any.

I may have to face Greg Regets and/or Kelly Wilkinson next month at
Fort Worth Wars. My guys need every advantage they can get. Wink~

Gilles

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "Holder, Scott"
<Scott.Holder@f...> wrote:
> Right now, it does not apply across the board. In fact, there are
few instances prior to FeudWar that have troops types to which this
might apply.
>
> I might add that this is an x-rule in one form or another. I'd
strongly urge folks who want to make this universal to get some
agreement among your playing group about its usage.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gilles.Hudelot@a...
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 12:40 AM
> To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WarriorRules] 2HCT list rules question.
>
>
> Scott,
>
> Got my copy of the Feudal Warrior and have really enjoyed looking
> through it.
>
> I noticed that several of the Feudal armies with 2HCT have a list
> rule stating
>
> "Steady , non-impetuous foot armed with 2hct and no other H-T-H
> weapon fight 1.5 ranks."
>
> Many of the the armies that were introduced in Holy Warrior have
> troops that are similarly armed. Serbian Krayishnici, Later
Ottoman
> Janissaries & Yamaks, etc...
>
> Will these lists get updated on the FHE web-site?
>
> Does this rule apply to all 2HCT armed close order troops?
>
> If yes, should this simply be an addition to section 9.22 of the
> rules?
>
> If not, what is the general criteria for this option?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gilles Hudelot
>
>
>
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:12 am    Post subject: Re: Re: 2HCT list rules question.


LOL! Smile Gilles,
You know I only play "TRASH" armies! Greg Has the "KILLER" list! I'm
playing Arab Empire because Don converted my Pergamenes to ISLAM after the
severe archery lesson he gave them. ALLAH is supreme and Don is his prophet!
Besides, over half of the figures in my army are "D's" of which you will most
likely slaughter when you get into hand to hand.
On an of list topic, email me and give your assessment of that list I sent
for your perusal! Good Gaming!

Kelly Wilkinson :)

Gilles Hudelot <Gilles.Hudelot@...> wrote:
Scott,

Sorry, I was trying to be a little to subtle with my prior question.

Essentially I'm asking you to update the FHE site lists for my Later
Hungarians and Wallachians so that my Armati and my Voynuks can kick
even more ass. :)

essentially there are a few lists from Holly Warrior that have troops
from same time period, and similar geographical location and
therefore I assume similar weapons and techniques.

As far as I could find these include

22. Later Ottoman Turk - Janissaries, Yamak Halberdiers & Voynuks.
24. Knights of St. John - Mercenary Infantry
34. Later Hungarian - Armati
35. Wallachian or Moldavian - Voynuks

Please let me know if I missed any.

I may have to face Greg Regets and/or Kelly Wilkinson next month at
Fort Worth Wars. My guys need every advantage they can get. Wink~

Gilles

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "Holder, Scott"
<Scott.Holder@f...> wrote:
> Right now, it does not apply across the board. In fact, there are
few instances prior to FeudWar that have troops types to which this
might apply.
>
> I might add that this is an x-rule in one form or another. I'd
strongly urge folks who want to make this universal to get some
agreement among your playing group about its usage.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gilles.Hudelot@a...
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 12:40 AM
> To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WarriorRules] 2HCT list rules question.
>
>
> Scott,
>
> Got my copy of the Feudal Warrior and have really enjoyed looking
> through it.
>
> I noticed that several of the Feudal armies with 2HCT have a list
> rule stating
>
> "Steady , non-impetuous foot armed with 2hct and no other H-T-H
> weapon fight 1.5 ranks."
>
> Many of the the armies that were introduced in Holy Warrior have
> troops that are similarly armed. Serbian Krayishnici, Later
Ottoman
> Janissaries & Yamaks, etc...
>
> Will these lists get updated on the FHE web-site?
>
> Does this rule apply to all 2HCT armed close order troops?
>
> If yes, should this simply be an addition to section 9.22 of the
> rules?
>
> If not, what is the general criteria for this option?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gilles Hudelot
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> WarriorRules-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>
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