Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

Greetings Jon,
The list rules for the swiss allow them to replace the front rank with
a rear rank armed with 2hct, which count as steady and 1st contact. I
understand why this would be the case if they were steady at the units
1st contact with the enemy. I dont understand why this would be the
case if they were disordered before the contact, say from prep fire,
or if the unit was shaken.

When a unit declares a charge and a unit evades away and the units are
at an angle does the direction of the charge count from when the
charge is started or when the charging unit wheels first. Note the
charging unit's wheel wont change what element is going to be hit its
only to try and force the evader in a certain direction. The time in
question I wanted to evade away from the chargers intial posistion and
he wanted me to be forced into my own unit. The ruling by the umpire
was in my favor but I would like to know that it was the correct one.
Terry Dix

[joncleaves]

<<The list rules for the swiss allow them to replace the front rank with
a rear rank armed with 2hct, which count as steady and 1st contact. I
understand why this would be the case if they were steady at the units
1st contact with the enemy. I dont understand why this would be the
case if they were disordered before the contact, say from prep fire,
or if the unit was shaken.>>

This is a 'why' question, Terry and not really a rules question. You have the
rule correct. We do why questions only on a case by case basis due to time. In
this case, in order to simulate what is happening inside the Swiss formation
(and despite Mark's continued statements to the contrary Warrior is designed as
a simulation...lol) that way of doing the rule mechanically permitted us the
effect we wanted with the least amount of change to the base rule. the whole
formation is indeed disordered, but the impact of the replacing halberd-armed
troops is best represented by steady and first contact.

<<When a unit declares a charge and a unit evades away and the units are
at an angle does the direction of the charge count from when the
charge is started or when the charging unit wheels first.>>

Charge path is set after the initial wheel. But the direction of the charge is
a line between the charger and the target, which is not necessarily the same
thing.

Jon


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[joncleaves]

In a message dated 6/10/2005 18:54:12 Central Daylight Time,
notalent@... writes:

Greetings Jon,
Is there a list rule update permiting the LMI P to fight in two ranks,>>

Yes, it is in the front of Feudal Warrior. Swiss loose order may be armed
with P which is an exception to the normal rule.

Jon






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Greetings Jon,
Is there a list rule update permiting the LMI P to fight in two ranks, I see
that they can when backing up the 2HCT. It would make sense that they would, a
weasley player ( whistling) might try to abuse the lack of list rule.

> This is a 'why' question, Terry and not really a rules question. You have the
rule correct. We do why questions only on a case by case basis due to time. In
this case, in order to simulate what is happening inside the Swiss formation
(and despite Mark's continued statements to the contrary Warrior is designed as
a simulation...lol) that way of doing the rule mechanically permitted us the
effect we wanted with the least amount of change to the base rule. the whole
formation is indeed disordered, but the impact of the replacing halberd-armed
troops is best represented by steady and first contact.


> <<When a unit declares a charge and a unit evades away and the units are
> at an angle does the direction of the charge count from when the
> charge is started or when the charging unit wheels first.>>
>
> Charge path is set after the initial wheel. But the direction of the charge
is a line between the charger and the target, which is not necessarily the same
thing.
>
> Jon
>
>
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