Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

hi,

a lists question that has been bugging me (and our revered club treasurer) for
a while is why cant anglo-danish armies mix fyrd and huscarles any more (or
viking huscarles and bondi for that matter)? This seems odd given these
mixed formations are, I believe, suggested by accounts of Hastings as well as
other battles. As a wargaming tradition I cant recall ever encountering a viking
or anglo-Danish army that didnt mix units in this way and i've met a few. Not
been allowed to do this makes it much harder to write viable lists for these
already frankly sub-par armies. By the way, love those imperial lists. Cant wait
to use Sassanids with 4 "IB" Bw elephants


Martin Williams
Barbarians Wargaming Club
Sydney, Australia

[scott holder]

To my recollection, they didn't mix in the old lists....at least not in the
North American tradition.

scott

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "Holder, Scott" <Scott.Holder@f...> wrote:
> To my recollection, they didn't mix in the old lists....at least not in the
North American
tradition.
>
> scott

We always allowed virtually any mixing under the old 6th ed blue books, working
on the
theory that they didn't specify who could or couldn't mix. As this has now
changed and
you require a specific mention to be allowed to mix the situation is a little
different. Could
it be added to the errata for dark age warrior? Or dont you accept that they
mixed
historically?

Martin

[Larry Essick]

> Or dont you accept that they mixed historically?

IMO, the historical support is stronger than many of those used to
justify the wide variety of troops in many lists. The prejudice goes
back to US practice of not allowing mixing of troops unless of the
same "name" or on the same line or specifically mentioned as mixing in
the army lists.

However, IIRC, the Viking boarshead (wedge) was described as a mixing
of Bondi and Huscarls in the old WRG books. In addition, it is clear
that at battles such as Hastings that the Fyrd fought in mixed ranks
with the heavier armored in the front and the lesser armored behind.
Only the Housecarls fought separately -- although there may be some
indication that at least part of these also formed in the front lines
of the Fyrd.

Larry

[scott holder]

I don't accept that they mixed historically. If they did, that would have been
noted in the lists.

-----Original Message-----
From: martin williams [mailto:martymagnificent@...]
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 8:12 PM
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WarriorRules] Re: anglo danish mixer


--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "Holder, Scott" <Scott.Holder@f...> wrote:
> To my recollection, they didn't mix in the old lists....at least not in the
North American
tradition.
>
> scott

We always allowed virtually any mixing under the old 6th ed blue books, working
on the
theory that they didn't specify who could or couldn't mix. As this has now
changed and
you require a specific mention to be allowed to mix the situation is a little
different. Could
it be added to the errata for dark age warrior? Or dont you accept that they
mixed
historically?

Martin




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