Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

My friends and I have just received our copies of Warrior and
Biblical Warrior. Initial reactions are very positive, the lists have
provoked a new interest in the period, and plans are already afoot
for new armies. One query that has already been thrown up (I didn't
spot it!) is the enigmatic mention under "General Concepts" that LI
designated as chariot runner detatchments can be mounted on the same
base as the chariots. I have been unable to find a rule as to how
this will work. I assume in the same way as elephant escorts but
elephant escorts cost more than basic LI (?) so is this the
intention? Sorry if this has been covered in previous posts, I did
look but could find no mention of it.
Cheers

Adam

[joncleaves]

Adam

I will answer your question, but as it is about something in a list book, I want
to double check with Scott - just give us a couple days.

Jon

[joncleaves]

Biblical Warrior gives you the option of putting figures listed as LI 'runners'
or 'chariot escorts' on the same base as the chariot in the same way the main
rules allow it for elephants.

The figures would cost 6 or 5 points each to place on the base, as they would
for elephants. You may do this with two figures per chariot base. The chariot
base would then:

-be a 'foot' troop type
-be subject to 2FP per CPF in hand to hand if the foot were irregular
-gain 2 additional figures for CPF per chariot base so constructed (10.3)

The LI on the base cannot fight in hand to hand (9.22) but can shoot as if a
second rank.

You are saving the detachment command factor but whether one way is 'better'
than the other is a matter of choice. It also has to do with the armament of
the LI/escort figures.

J

[scott holder]

They are treated just like elephant escorts and yes, they cost
less:) If there are any rules nuances that I've overlooked, Jon the
Rules Ho will come riding to the rescue. This is not anything new,
actually; it's a concept first developed in the NASAMW list revisions so
has been around for, hmmmmm, 14 years or so (I'm dating myself again).
Usually, I just see Runners as detachments that form a second rank and
not on the same base. At least that's how I run the HCh in the Late
Hebrews. Yeah, they never go impetuous but within period, it can give
em a needed punch against certain opponents.

I'm glad you like the lists, spread the word:) I've run two of them
thus far "for real" (Late Sumerian/Akkadian and Late Hebrew) and found
them rather balanced, at least within the period (playing against the
Neo-Assyrians). I might be "officially" the List Ho but Bill "the Legal
Ho" had LOTS of input which made the product significantly better.

If anybody finds a typo or two, please send me an email so I can put
such corrections up on the web page, which, BTW, already has a list
correction:(:(

Dark Age Warrior is completed and will be available at Cold Wars and
then thereafter, online. I'm actually gonna make Anglo-Danes in 25mm as
a result. And the Byzantines are finally overhauled.

Holy Warrior remains 1/3 done in first draft form. No work on it in a
month because of cranking out the final draft of Dark Age Warrior.
Starting in April, I'll return to Holy Warrior. Target publication date
is Fall In with a target date of Historicon for completing the first
draft.

Scott
List Ho
>>> adster68@... 3/23/02 3:51:00 AM >>>
My friends and I have just received our copies of Warrior and
Biblical Warrior. Initial reactions are very positive, the lists have
provoked a new interest in the period, and plans are already afoot
for new armies. One query that has already been thrown up (I didn't
spot it!) is the enigmatic mention under "General Concepts" that LI
designated as chariot runner detatchments can be mounted on the same
base as the chariots. I have been unable to find a rule as to how
this will work. I assume in the same way as elephant escorts but
elephant escorts cost more than basic LI (?) so is this the
intention? Sorry if this has been covered in previous posts, I did
look but could find no mention of it.
Cheers

Adam



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Hiya

I just found (okay had pointed out to me) the clarification on the
chariot runners rules from Biblical Warrior, on the FHE website. It
all looks much as I expected apart from one enigmatic line:

2) The chariot base is then a "foot" troop type.

Does this really mean exactly what it says? For all situations, such
as combat outcomes and waver tests, the chariot element with
runners/escorts on the same base is counted as a "foot" element?

If I am missing something obvious that a read of the rules would make
clear then I grovellingly apologise. (And take back all the jeers at
posts who have committed this "sin"!)
Cheers

Adam

[joncleaves]

In a message dated Mon, 27 May 2002 12:44:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
adster68@... writes:

> 2) The chariot base is then a "foot" troop type.
>
> Does this really mean exactly what it says? For all situations, such
> as combat outcomes and waver tests, the chariot element with
> runners/escorts on the same base is counted as a "foot"
> element?

Yes.