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Chris Cameron/Toronto Questions

 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:31 pm    Post subject: Chris Cameron/Toronto Questions


The following questions are from Chris Cameron, who judged a tourney recently in
Toronto.
Please, once again, the WarriorRules yahoo group is THE place for all rules
questions. Yes, a player can find me through the website, but the first time he
does so, I ask him to join this group. I want to answer your questions, but the
business of Warrior is done on this forum and this benefits the entire Warrior
community. Chris Campbell - this goes double for you... ;)

The questions:

<<1) Flank charges;

A) A body (unit A)composed entirely of LI is positioned so that it has
one full element behind the flank of an enemy body (unit B) composed of
LMI, and the rest of it's elements are partialy to the flank or in
front, and the LI body has the movement such that the flank element
could reach the enemy flank at every point on that LI element's front.
During charge decs, the LI declares an IMP charge on the LMI (behind
flank). The LMI, which is Irr. A and thus not uneasy, declares an IMP
cdharge on the LI. Which of the following is a true statement?

1) Unit A has it's charge cancelled, because once unit B declares
a charge and makes a wheel of 45 degrees, unit A no longer has a flank
to charge and cannot frontally charge LMI. (I don't believe this!)>>

No, incorrect.

<< 2) Unit B has its charge cancelled, because they are charged from
behind their own flank and unit A can legally line up the charge as a
flank charge;>>

No, incorrect.

<< 3) Both unit A and B can in this situation charge each other
impetuously (this is what I ruled).>>

Yes, correct.

<<B) A body (unit C) composed entirely of uneasy irr. infantry wants to
declare a charge ont he flank of unit D, a steady regular Lch. At the
beginning of declarations,Unit C does not have any elements behind D's
flank. When C measures the charge, only one corner of one element of
C's body can make contact with the flank of D.>>

Ok, to simplify this one – this is not a flank charge. If you are starting a
charge NOT behind the flank, but want to have the charge result in contacting
the flank, then, after any legal wheel, the charge must result in ALL of the
front edge of the charger ending up behind the flank of the target. If even one
part of one element does not get behind the flank, it is not a flank charge.

Note, that this is what will be called in the revised rulebook a Case II flank
charge – one that starts NOT behind the flank of the enemy. Case II flank
charges have a set of additional restrictions over Case I flank charges –
those that start with some part of the charger behind the flank.

In the current rulebook, the three examples on pages 42 and 43 describe these
'Case II' flank charges.

<<2) March moves and terrain. Can a unit deviate off-table when marching
through very difficult terrain? (I said yes) If so, how does it re-enter?>>

There is no more deviation. See the new 12.0 in the files section of
WarriorRules, which is called Warrior 1214 as it includes also the draft of the
new 14.0.

<<3) Set up. Can an on table command continue off-table>>

No.

<<Can individual bodies with the head's of columns on table continue those
bodies off-table ? (I said yes).>>

Yes, but ONLY if they can’t fit some other way. 14.43.

<<4) Flank marches: If a FM body or command dices to arrive turn 4 but
actually arrives turn 5 due to pushing back an enemy command, does it
take fatigue? (I said yes)>>

You meant AFTER the 5th bound, but yes, if an opposed flank march’s stronger
side enters after the 5th bound, it gains fatigue. 14.45.

Jon


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