Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

-- On May 13, Jon spake: --
But I can't let such negative language go unnoticed by a member of
FHE.

If there is no historical evidence of Rus fighting with Khazars, then
they won't be in the list. We are dreadfully sorry about TOG making
this 'extrapolation', but we need something credible to make such a
decision. We are hardly ripping the heart out of killer lists or
some such nonsense.

I say all this, not because I am list ho, but because I would really
have so-called Warrior 'problems' be brought up with recommended
solutions instead of simple lamentations.

-- End message --

Jon,

I think you're reading more negative tone into my message than
intended. As I said, the Khazars were a "change of pace" army for me,
not one near and dear to my heart. And a lament is subtly but
importantly different from a whine.

As for historical evidence:
I deliberately brought none to the table. My point was about game
play and play balance, not about history. I'm mildly curious on the
basis of what historical evidence the Rus, who were common
mercenaries throughout that region, were stricken from the list, but
I'm not overly concerned about it.

My point is that I think a different standard of historical rigor
ought to be applied to marginal lists than to "killer/tournament"
lists. You may disagree. That's a philosophical stance, not one about
facts. I have no problem with that, I just wanted to suggest a game
balance perspective, that's all.

The Khazar figures will return as something else. One key to
longevity in this hobby is to choose figures that fit any number of
armies from an entire sweep of history. So I'll find a use for the
figures, but I'll still lament the Khazars.


-Mark

[joncleaves]

In a message dated 5/13/2002 20:35:12 Central Daylight Time,
strider@... writes:


> My point is that I think a different standard of historical rigor
> ought to be applied to marginal lists than to "killer/tournament"
> lists.

You are right. We are 180 degrees out on that. But, carry on!


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[scott holder]

The Khazar figures will return as something else. One key to
longevity in this hobby is to choose figures that fit any number of
armies from an entire sweep of history. So I'll find a use for the
figures, but I'll still lament the Khazars.

>In the frenzy that was Cold Wars for me, I *think* Charles Randow came
up to me with a similar "lament" regarding the Khazars. Upon closer
review of some of the other armies in DAW, the Early Bulgars looked like
they would be a suitable replacement.

Scott
List Ho