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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 6:55 am    Post subject: Function or Historical Equipment


I hate to resurface the question, but I don't think it was ever
answered earlier. Why do Moogs have shields and Galloglaich don't?
I like the move by FHE to classify troops by function instead of
equipment. Galloglaich had to have faced longbow somewhere. Did
they stand and close with the bowmen or did they take a waiver for
shieldless taking 2 CPF and run away. I'm not bias either way, just
want to know the lists are consistant.

Wes Davis

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 3:10 pm    Post subject: RE: Function or Historical Equipment


I will be posting something long later on today about Moogs. The Galloglaich
question has been answered. We looked and looked and looked for galloglaich
shields, they ain't there. And, during the research for FeudWar, it became very
clear that the military situation in Ireland was far different than elsewhere in
that the "military elites" (in this case galloglaichs who were acting as almost
defacto mercenaries) were not getting shot down in hordes, or even onesies and
twosies. Their opponents were the occasional mounted types (who may or may not
have even been the armored tanks in the rest of western europe) but
predominantly good old barbarian trash LMI JLS types. Why the galloglaich's
abandoned shields is anybody's guess. We tried to find em after all these years
but couldn't.

As I mentioned yesterday, with all that in mind, we did other tweaks on the
Anglo-Irish list to mitigate what would be in the eyes (of a few) a crappy troop
type. Again, run the numbers and you'll find triple armed galloglaichs hold
there own in contemporary battles.

I find the whole "consistent" issue ironic. Bill and I tirelessly scrub these
lists for consistency and that goes back to previous list books. In fact, one
of the review team critisizes us for "over consistency" on the lists. Again,
can't please everybody.

scott

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Subject: [WarriorRules] Function or Historical Equipment


I hate to resurface the question, but I don't think it was ever
answered earlier. Why do Moogs have shields and Galloglaich don't?
I like the move by FHE to classify troops by function instead of
equipment. Galloglaich had to have faced longbow somewhere. Did
they stand and close with the bowmen or did they take a waiver for
shieldless taking 2 CPF and run away. I'm not bias either way, just
want to know the lists are consistant.

Wes Davis



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