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Harlan Garrett
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Hello All:
Does anyone know how long the old army list are going to be
grandfathered as the new books are published?
The primary concern of people in the Republic of Texas is their current
army list will become obsolete and they will not have an army to take to
tournaments as they proceed in repainting or rebasing their armies to
bring them in-line with the new books.
I would recommend that a 12 to 18 month grandfather period.
Sincerely
Harlan D. Garrett
Fort Hood, TX
(817) 832-0618
<mailto:Harlan.D.Garrett@...>
Harlan.D.Garrett@...
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scott holder
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2002 6:55 pm Post subject: Re: Grandfathering Old List |
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Old lists remain "in play" until new ones are published and the
supercession list is updated to reflect that. There will be no
"grandfathering" where someone brings a "new" and "old" Norman list to a
tourney. Lemme ammend that, tourney's I run. What local tournament
runners do is entirely their own bidness.
>>> Harlan.D.Garrett@... 7/8/02 10:41:00 AM >>>
Hello All:
Does anyone know how long the old army list are going to be
grandfathered as the new books are published?
The primary concern of people in the Republic of Texas is their current
army list will become obsolete and they will not have an army to take to
tournaments as they proceed in repainting or rebasing their armies to
bring them in-line with the new books.
I would recommend that a 12 to 18 month grandfather period.
Sincerely
Harlan D. Garrett
Fort Hood, TX
(817) 832-0618
<mailto:Harlan.D.Garrett@...>
Harlan.D.Garrett@...
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 3:33 am Post subject: Re: Grandfathering Old List |
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OK so someone want to tell me if there are changes to samurai army..early...
I am painting and flocking and I dont want to have to redo anything????
TIA
V
>From: "Harlan D. Garrett" <Harlan.D.Garrett@...>
>Reply-To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
>To: <WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [WarriorRules] Grandfathering Old List
>Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:42:50 -0500
>
>Hello All:
>
>Does anyone know how long the old army list are going to be
>grandfathered as the new books are published?
>
>The primary concern of people in the Republic of Texas is their current
>army list will become obsolete and they will not have an army to take to
>tournaments as they proceed in repainting or rebasing their armies to
>bring them in-line with the new books.
>
>I would recommend that a 12 to 18 month grandfather period.
>
>Sincerely
>Harlan D. Garrett
>Fort Hood, TX
>(817) 832-0618
> <mailto:Harlan.D.Garrett@...>
>Harlan.D.Garrett@...
>
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Regards,
Vaughn McCurry
“A nation that draws too broad a difference between its scholars and its
warriors will have its thinking being done by cowards and its fighting by
fools.”—Thucydides, c. 460-400 B.C.
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scott holder
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: Grandfathering Old List |
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I'm sorry but I can't make any guarantees on this issue at this time.
Yes, changes will occur. I'd point people to a Spearpoint article
written by the late Mike McGinnis as the template for how *a* Japanese
list will look.
Scott
List Ho
>>> vaughn_mccurry@... 7/8/02 7:29:00 PM >>>
OK so someone want to tell me if there are changes to samurai
army..early...
I am painting and flocking and I dont want to have to redo anything????
TIA
V
>From: "Harlan D. Garrett" <Harlan.D.Garrett@...>
>Reply-To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
>To: <WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [WarriorRules] Grandfathering Old List
>Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:42:50 -0500
>
>Hello All:
>
>Does anyone know how long the old army list are going to be
>grandfathered as the new books are published?
>
>The primary concern of people in the Republic of Texas is their current
>army list will become obsolete and they will not have an army to take
to
>tournaments as they proceed in repainting or rebasing their armies to
>bring them in-line with the new books.
>
>I would recommend that a 12 to 18 month grandfather period.
>
>Sincerely
>Harlan D. Garrett
>Fort Hood, TX
>(817) 832-0618
> <mailto:Harlan.D.Garrett@...>
>Harlan.D.Garrett@...
>
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Regards,
Vaughn McCurry
A nation that draws too broad a difference between its scholars and its
warriors will have its thinking being done by cowards and its fighting
by
fools.Thucydides, c. 460-400 B.C.
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scott holder
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 4:40 pm Post subject: Re: Grandfathering Old List |
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Let me add that new lists will supercede old ones at the tournament
*after* they are released. So, for example, we will be releasing Holy
Warrior at Fall In. If somebody shows up at Fall In playing an old Late
Crusader list, no problem. But at Cold Wars, said person would only be
allowed to use the "new" list.
Again, what you do locally is your business but I don't plan on running
or attending events that allow old lists that have FHE lists published.
Please go to our web site for a publication schedule.
>>> gar@... 7/9/02 8:36:00 AM >>>
Don't worry Vaughn, we intend to allow players around here to use old
lists, if having the right lead becomes an issue. For a while at least.
Transitioning games is often painful, but so far Scott's lists are of
vast historical improvement and he has worked hard to understand the
needs of the player.
As for Harlan ... don't even try to get Americans to understand Republic
of Texas people, (haha). You know very well that north of the Brazos
river can be found any number of wonders foreign to the Texas resident,
like lite beer, trucks without gun racks, winter, and democrats with a
job. I think we can manage letting everyone play an army they have the
figures for.
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: Holder, Scott <FHWA>
To: IPM Return requested (Receipt notification requested)
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Grandfathering Old List
I'm sorry but I can't make any guarantees on this issue at this time.
Yes, changes will occur. I'd point people to a Spearpoint article
written by the late Mike McGinnis as the template for how *a* Japanese
list will look.
Scott
List Ho
>>> vaughn_mccurry@... 7/8/02 7:29:00 PM >>>
OK so someone want to tell me if there are changes to samurai
army..early...
I am painting and flocking and I dont want to have to redo
anything????
TIA
V
>From: "Harlan D. Garrett" <Harlan.D.Garrett@...>
>Reply-To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
>To: <WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [WarriorRules] Grandfathering Old List
>Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:42:50 -0500
>
>Hello All:
>
>Does anyone know how long the old army list are going to be
>grandfathered as the new books are published?
>
>The primary concern of people in the Republic of Texas is their
current
>army list will become obsolete and they will not have an army to take
to
>tournaments as they proceed in repainting or rebasing their armies to
>bring them in-line with the new books.
>
>I would recommend that a 12 to 18 month grandfather period.
>
>Sincerely
>Harlan D. Garrett
>Fort Hood, TX
>(817) 832-0618
> <mailto:Harlan.D.Garrett@...>
>Harlan.D.Garrett@...
>
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Regards,
Vaughn McCurry
A nation that draws too broad a difference between its scholars and
its
warriors will have its thinking being done by cowards and its fighting
by
fools.Thucydides, c. 460-400 B.C.
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Greg Regets
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: Grandfathering Old List |
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Don't worry Vaughn, we intend to allow players around here to use old lists, if
having the right lead becomes an issue. For a while at least. Transitioning
games is often painful, but so far Scott's lists are of vast historical
improvement and he has worked hard to understand the needs of the player.
As for Harlan ... don't even try to get Americans to understand Republic of
Texas people, (haha). You know very well that north of the Brazos river can be
found any number of wonders foreign to the Texas resident, like lite beer,
trucks without gun racks, winter, and democrats with a job. I think we can
manage letting everyone play an army they have the figures for.
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: Holder, Scott <FHWA>
To: IPM Return requested (Receipt notification requested)
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Grandfathering Old List
I'm sorry but I can't make any guarantees on this issue at this time.
Yes, changes will occur. I'd point people to a Spearpoint article
written by the late Mike McGinnis as the template for how *a* Japanese
list will look.
Scott
List Ho
>>> vaughn_mccurry@... 7/8/02 7:29:00 PM >>>
OK so someone want to tell me if there are changes to samurai
army..early...
I am painting and flocking and I dont want to have to redo anything????
TIA
V
>From: "Harlan D. Garrett" <Harlan.D.Garrett@...>
>Reply-To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
>To: <WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [WarriorRules] Grandfathering Old List
>Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:42:50 -0500
>
>Hello All:
>
>Does anyone know how long the old army list are going to be
>grandfathered as the new books are published?
>
>The primary concern of people in the Republic of Texas is their current
>army list will become obsolete and they will not have an army to take
to
>tournaments as they proceed in repainting or rebasing their armies to
>bring them in-line with the new books.
>
>I would recommend that a 12 to 18 month grandfather period.
>
>Sincerely
>Harlan D. Garrett
>Fort Hood, TX
>(817) 832-0618
> <mailto:Harlan.D.Garrett@...>
>Harlan.D.Garrett@...
>
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Regards,
Vaughn McCurry
A nation that draws too broad a difference between its scholars and its
warriors will have its thinking being done by cowards and its fighting
by
fools.Thucydides, c. 460-400 B.C.
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Recruit
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 5:51 pm Post subject: Re: Grandfathering Old List |
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ok so i dotn have spear point....someone have a link to this or a copy???
and is that the nasmw pub?
>From: "Greggory A. Regets" <gar@...>
>Reply-To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
>To: <WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Grandfathering Old List
>Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:49:04 -0500
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>Don't worry Vaughn, we intend to allow players around here to use old
>lists, if having the right lead becomes an issue. For a while at least.
>Transitioning games is often painful, but so far Scott's lists are of vast
>historical improvement and he has worked hard to understand the needs of
>the player.
>
>As for Harlan ... don't even try to get Americans to understand Republic of
>Texas people, (haha). You know very well that north of the Brazos river can
>be found any number of wonders foreign to the Texas resident, like lite
>beer, trucks without gun racks, winter, and democrats with a job. I think
>we can manage letting everyone play an army they have the figures for.
>
>Greg
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Holder, Scott <FHWA>
> To: IPM Return requested (Receipt notification requested)
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Grandfathering Old List
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>
> I'm sorry but I can't make any guarantees on this issue at this time.
> Yes, changes will occur. I'd point people to a Spearpoint article
> written by the late Mike McGinnis as the template for how *a* Japanese
> list will look.
>
> Scott
> List Ho
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> >>> vaughn_mccurry@... 7/8/02 7:29:00 PM >>>
> OK so someone want to tell me if there are changes to samurai
> army..early...
> I am painting and flocking and I dont want to have to redo anything????
> TIA
> V
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> >From: "Harlan D. Garrett" <Harlan.D.Garrett@...>
> >Reply-To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
> >To: <WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: [WarriorRules] Grandfathering Old List
> >Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:42:50 -0500
> >
> >Hello All:
> >
> >Does anyone know how long the old army list are going to be
> >grandfathered as the new books are published?
> >
> >The primary concern of people in the Republic of Texas is their current
> >army list will become obsolete and they will not have an army to take
> to
> >tournaments as they proceed in repainting or rebasing their armies to
> >bring them in-line with the new books.
> >
> >I would recommend that a 12 to 18 month grandfather period.
> >
> >Sincerely
> >Harlan D. Garrett
> >Fort Hood, TX
> >(817) 832-0618
> > <mailto:Harlan.D.Garrett@...>
> >Harlan.D.Garrett@...
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> Regards,
> Vaughn McCurry
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> A nation that draws too broad a difference between its scholars and its
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Harlan Garrett
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 6:29 pm Post subject: RE: Grandfathering Old List |
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Scott:
Sorry to hear that is your stance on lists and attendance. We would
have like to have you come down for our next tournament.
Harlan
-----Original Message-----
From: Holder, Scott <FHWA> [mailto:Scott.Holder@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 8:40 AM
To: IPM Return requested (Receipt notification requested)
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Grandfathering Old List
Let me add that new lists will supercede old ones at the tournament
*after* they are released. So, for example, we will be releasing Holy
Warrior at Fall In. If somebody shows up at Fall In playing an old Late
Crusader list, no problem. But at Cold Wars, said person would only be
allowed to use the "new" list.
Again, what you do locally is your business but I don't plan on running
or attending events that allow old lists that have FHE lists published.
Please go to our web site for a publication schedule.
>>> gar@... 7/9/02 8:36:00 AM >>>
Don't worry Vaughn, we intend to allow players around here to use old
lists, if having the right lead becomes an issue. For a while at least.
Transitioning games is often painful, but so far Scott's lists are of
vast historical improvement and he has worked hard to understand the
needs of the player.
As for Harlan ... don't even try to get Americans to understand Republic
of Texas people, (haha). You know very well that north of the Brazos
river can be found any number of wonders foreign to the Texas resident,
like lite beer, trucks without gun racks, winter, and democrats with a
job. I think we can manage letting everyone play an army they have the
figures for.
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: Holder, Scott <FHWA>
To: IPM Return requested (Receipt notification requested)
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Grandfathering Old List
I'm sorry but I can't make any guarantees on this issue at this time.
Yes, changes will occur. I'd point people to a Spearpoint article
written by the late Mike McGinnis as the template for how *a* Japanese
list will look.
Scott
List Ho
>>> vaughn_mccurry@... 7/8/02 7:29:00 PM >>>
OK so someone want to tell me if there are changes to samurai
army..early...
I am painting and flocking and I dont want to have to redo
anything????
TIA
V
>From: "Harlan D. Garrett" <Harlan.D.Garrett@...>
>Reply-To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
>To: <WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [WarriorRules] Grandfathering Old List
>Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:42:50 -0500
>
>Hello All:
>
>Does anyone know how long the old army list are going to be
>grandfathered as the new books are published?
>
>The primary concern of people in the Republic of Texas is their
current
>army list will become obsolete and they will not have an army to take
to
>tournaments as they proceed in repainting or rebasing their armies to
>bring them in-line with the new books.
>
>I would recommend that a 12 to 18 month grandfather period.
>
>Sincerely
>Harlan D. Garrett
>Fort Hood, TX
>(817) 832-0618
> <mailto:Harlan.D.Garrett@...>
>Harlan.D.Garrett@...
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>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Regards,
Vaughn McCurry
A nation that draws too broad a difference between its scholars and
its
warriors will have its thinking being done by cowards and its fighting
by
fools.Thucydides, c. 460-400 B.C.
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Chris Bump
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: Grandfathering Old List |
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Harlan,
I think that the position Scott espoused is the same that Pat is working off of
for Fort Worth Wars and planning on doing the same for twistercon. I'm pretty
sure the mindset, atleast in DFW, is to convert to the FHE lists at the expense
of the others currently available. But I have been away for far too long and
should allow Pat and Don to address this authoritatively.
Chris
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scott holder
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 6:57 pm Post subject: Re: Grandfathering Old List |
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In case I wasn't clear on one particular nuance of this the first time
around:
We are only talking published FHE lists right now. As an umpire, I
would obviously continue to accept someone playing, for example, Late
Imperial Romans at an event I run or attend since obviously that list
hasn't been redone. When all the lists are finally redone, as far as
I'm concerned, there will be no "other" lists to choose from, again, at
least in those events I umpire.
What I won't participate in is, for example, an event that allows
someone to bring the old WRG Norman or NASAMW Norman lists. None of the
big three east coast events run by NASAMW will allow this (heh heh,
obviously cuz I have some influence on the decision).
This is akin to someone playing DBA 2.0 and wanting to play a particular
1.x list because "it's better" or some other reason. In most cases,
I've tried to ensure that few lists undergo massive changes in their
core structure so that rebasing/repainting dislocation is minimized.
Obviously things are gonna change, that can't be helped, but I really am
sensitive to how this impacts players. As I've mentioned before, I have
10,000 ancient/medieval figures in 25mm so know the implications of what
I'm doing:) :)
Our lists have been long overdue for an overhaul and by simply
perpetuating old, and in many cases, inaccurate or poorly constructed
lists, doesn't help us as historical gamers.
Again, what anybody does locally is their bidness, not mine. Ifn's we
run some event here in central Missouri and you play Normans, expect to
only bring "FHE Normans":)
I apologize ahead of time if the above comes across as somewhat grumpy.
It's not intended to be that way, I'm simply stating what I, as a player
and NASAMW Chief Umpire for Warrior, intend to do over the next 2 years
as FHE finishes up publication of updated army lists.
>>> cncbump@... 7/9/02 10:37:00 AM >>>
Harlan,
I think that the position Scott espoused is the same that Pat is working
off of for Fort Worth Wars and planning on doing the same for
twistercon. I'm pretty sure the mindset, atleast in DFW, is to convert
to the FHE lists at the expense of the others currently available. But
I have been away for far too long and should allow Pat and Don to
address this authoritatively.
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Harlan Garrett
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 7:04 pm Post subject: RE: Grandfathering Old List |
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Chris:
Don't get me wrong, when Holy Warrior or what ever book has the Later
Crusaders, I will convert my army ASAP. I am just concern going to a
tournament and find out that my army list is invalid because FHE has
just released Holy Warrior and my army is based on NASAMW army list.
Harlan
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Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Grandfathering Old List
Harlan,
I think that the position Scott espoused is the same that Pat is working
off of for Fort Worth Wars and planning on doing the same for
twistercon. I'm pretty sure the mindset, atleast in DFW, is to convert
to the FHE lists at the expense of the others currently available. But
I have been away for far too long and should allow Pat and Don to
address this authoritatively.
Chris
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scott holder
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 7:14 pm Post subject: RE: Grandfathering Old List |
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Don't get me wrong, when Holy Warrior or what ever book has the Later
Crusaders, I will convert my army ASAP. I am just concern going to a
tournament and find out that my army list is invalid because FHE has
just released Holy Warrior and my army is based on NASAMW army list.
>Ah, now I understand. Obviously tourney organizers will need to be
slightly careful about this in the 1-3 months after a army list book is
complete. For example, when Holy Warrior is released as Fall In,
obviously Later Crusaders based on the NASAMW list would be allowed but
4 months later at Cold Wars, no. That's why we have the supercession
list and I'll endeavor to make it clear at the shows I run what's good
and what ain't so that players won't be operating under faulty info.
scott
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Harlan Garrett
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 7:36 pm Post subject: RE: Grandfathering Old List |
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Thanks Scott.
-----Original Message-----
From: Holder, Scott <FHWA> [mailto:Scott.Holder@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:14 AM
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Subject: RE: [WarriorRules] Grandfathering Old List
Don't get me wrong, when Holy Warrior or what ever book has the Later
Crusaders, I will convert my army ASAP. I am just concern going to a
tournament and find out that my army list is invalid because FHE has
just released Holy Warrior and my army is based on NASAMW army list.
>Ah, now I understand. Obviously tourney organizers will need to be
slightly careful about this in the 1-3 months after a army list book is
complete. For example, when Holy Warrior is released as Fall In,
obviously Later Crusaders based on the NASAMW list would be allowed but
4 months later at Cold Wars, no. That's why we have the supercession
list and I'll endeavor to make it clear at the shows I run what's good
and what ain't so that players won't be operating under faulty info.
scott
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Patrick Byrne
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 7:48 pm Post subject: Re: Grandfathering Old List |
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Harlan,
Just like the separation between Church and State, you must separate FHE and
Tournaments.
I would not ask FHE to grandfather the lists as it is not their territory.
It is however the territory of the Tournament organizers.
In fact, I dare say that Tourney's don't even have to use the FHE army lists
at all. One could for instance make a Tournament as a Hutchby and Clark
list only event.
I can definitely sympathize with you because when the Norse Irish list came
out in Dark Warrior, it deleted elements that previous lists included. I am
now painting 29 new elements in order to make the army work in the new
direction allowed by the FHE list.
If I had to take the Norse Irish to a Tourney that was Dark Age Warrior List
(FHE) only, I would either borrow lead to make it work or ask for permission
to use another Norse Irish list. Its not like you are making your own lists
and giving all your Cav Lances or anything .
In finale, asking FHE to grandfather lists is like using the Mona Lisa as a
Door Mat or using Ozarka Natural Spring Water in a radiator; the two just
don't go together. WARRIOR is just a set of rules, FHE is just a company;
the Tourney Organizer is the dude you want.
-PB
> From: "Harlan D. Garrett" <Harlan.D.Garrett@...>
> Reply-To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:04:09 -0500
> To: <WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [WarriorRules] Grandfathering Old List
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> Chris:
>
> Don't get me wrong, when Holy Warrior or what ever book has the Later
> Crusaders, I will convert my army ASAP. I am just concern going to a
> tournament and find out that my army list is invalid because FHE has
> just released Holy Warrior and my army is based on NASAMW army list.
>
> Harlan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cncbump@... [mailto:cncbump@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:40 AM
> To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Grandfathering Old List
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>
> Harlan,
>
> I think that the position Scott espoused is the same that Pat is working
> off of for Fort Worth Wars and planning on doing the same for
> twistercon. I'm pretty sure the mindset, atleast in DFW, is to convert
> to the FHE lists at the expense of the others currently available. But
> I have been away for far too long and should allow Pat and Don to
> address this authoritatively.
> Chris
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> WarriorRules-unsubscribe@egroups.com
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