Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

Could anyone out there send me the Palmyran list from book 2 for 6th edition?

THanks in advance

At 01:26 AM 7/1/00 +0100, you wrote:
>
>
>"Holder, Scott " wrote:
>
>> The DBM point system sucks. I say that with 7 years of directly scoring
and
>> umpiring the games. As the game has "matured" so have the flood of 5-5
games.
>>
>
>Strong opinions. I haven’t played DBM all that much, but in the four
tournaments
>I have participated in, 5-5s were thin on the ground in my games. I had
one 10-0,
>and lost a couple by the same score. I think I have had two draws.
>
>> The problem here in the states is an inately conservative gaming population
>> that ffears change and yet blindly follows it from Phil.
>
>I bet it is worse in the UK. We look on the States as a land of independent
>characters who are willing to ignore the unwritten WRG Papal Infallibility
>doctrine.
>
>[snip]
>
>> We've looked at all the systems used by others and still
>> really haven't found anything that captures what we're trying to do, namely
>> force people to fight.
>
>I think this is not fair to those games such as Feudal French versus
Swiss. A
>French general doesn’t really want to mix it, in those circumstances.
>
>Paul Szuscikiewicz
>
>
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These are the WRG 6th Edition lists, correct to 11 September 1982. I have retyped them, and attempted to find and correct any previous typos. Any changes from the previously released lists are corrections to typographic errors. (Or new typos on my part!). (This is the original list, and these are the corrections, and these are the NASAMW corrections).

List 76. Palmyran (Dry) AD260- 272
C-in-C mounted on horse as SHC, L, or as EHC, HC, L, JLS, Sh, @ 100 pts 1
PA standard to accompany C-in-C, @ 30 pts 0-1
Sub-general mounted on horse as SHC, L, @ 50 pts 0-4
Roman sub-general mounted on horse as HC, JLS, Sh, @ 50 pts *1
Palmyran cavalry "Reg C" HC, L, Sh, @ 10 pts 0-72
Extra to upgrade Palmyran cavalry to EHC, 0-1/2 B, @ 0 pts, rest L, Sh, @ 2 pts 0-1/2
Extra to upgrade Palmyran cavalry to SHC, @ 6 pts if HC or EHC, B, or @ 4 pts if EHC, L, Sh all/0
Extra to upgrade Palmyran cavalry to "Reg B", @ 1 pt 0-48
Regular light cavalry "Reg C" LC, JLS, B, Sh, @ 10 pts 0-12
Volunteer light cavalry "Irr B" LC, B, @ 5 pts 0-20
Regular archers "Reg C" LMI or LI, B, @ 3 pts 20-48
Extra to give Sh to regular archers, @ 1 pt any
Irregular archers "Irr C" LI, B, @ 2 pts 0-30
Caravan guards "Irr C" HCm, JLS, B, Sh, @ 13 pts 0-10
Light bolt-shooter with "Reg C" crew of 2, @ 20 pts 0-2
Roman cavalry "Reg C" HC, JLS, Sh, @ 10 pts *5-12
Roman Moorish cavalry "Reg C" LC, JLS, Sh, @ 8 pts 0-6
Roman legionaries "Reg C" MI, HTW, Sh, @ 5 pts *24-56
Roman auxiliaries "Reg C" LMI, JLS, Sh, @ 4 pts *24-56
Border horse archers "Reg D" LC, B, @ 5 pts 0-12
Arabs "Irr D" up to ½ LCm, JLS or B, Sh, @ 4 pts, rest LC, JLS, Sh, @ 6 pts 0-30
Up to 18 Regular Command Factors @ 10 pts
Up to 10 Irregular Command Factors @ 25 pts
This list covers the whole period of Palmyran independence. Minimums marked * apply only if any of the troops referred to as Roman are used. Wargamers refighting the battles between Zenobia and Aurelian should not use such troops, and their Roman opponents should not use SHC or any troops with bows. Romans should not use Arabs unless they already have won at least one previous battle. An unaccompanied Palmyran army fights best in open or gently rolling terrain. Its most effective tactic is a thundering cataphract charge shot in by massed archers. Beware of using so many ancillary troops as to deprive yourself of sufficient cataphracts or distract you from deploying them properly. Romans are most useful in closer terrain. The reason they are classed as sub-ordinate instead of allies is that Odenathus was formally appointed commander of Roman forces in the east by Gallienus. Roman legionaries can fight in wedge. We tend to forget that Palmyrans here Arabs; as such, they now start as HC, L, more typical of the Arabs. The option to upgrade to mixed EHC units reflects the Parthian/Sassanid influence. The SHC option recognizes the reality that most gamers have the more traditional SHC figures.
 
 
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Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2000 3:17 AM
Subject: [WarriorRules] Help with Palmyran list
Could anyone out there send me the Palmyran list from book 2 for 6th edition?THanks in advanceAt 01:26 AM 7/1/00 +0100, you wrote:>>>"Holder, Scott " wrote:>>> The DBM point system sucks.  I say that with 7 years of directly scoringand>> umpiring the games.  As the game has "matured" so have the flood of 5-5games.>>>>Strong opinions. I haven't played DBM all that much, but in the fourtournaments>I have participated in, 5-5s were thin on the ground in my games. I hadone 10-0,>and lost a couple by the same score. I think I have had two draws.>>> The problem here in the states is an inately conservative gaming population>> that ffears change and yet blindly follows it from Phil.>>I bet it is worse in the UK. We look on the States as a land of independent>characters who are willing to ignore the unwritten WRG Papal Infallibility>doctrine.>>[snip]>>> We've looked at all the systems used by others and still>> really haven't found anything that captures what we're trying to do, namely>> force people to fight.>>I think this is not  fair to those games such as Feudal French versusSwiss. A>French general doesn't really want to mix it, in those circumstances.>>Paul Szuscikiewicz>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------>Let Internet Call Manager notify you of phone calls while you're surf!>Never feel rushed to get off-line again. Includes Caller ID and Web>voicemail. And only $5 per month. Start your FREE trial today!>http://click.egroups.com/1/6080/2/_/_/_/962497529/>------------------------------------------------------------------------>>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:>WarriorRules-unsubscribe@egroups.com>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------Life's too short to send boring email. Let SuperSig come to the rescue.http://click.egroups.com/1/6137/2/_/_/_/962504200/------------------------------------------------------------------------To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:WarriorRules-unsubscribe@egroups.com

THanks so much for the info.....

At 08:50 AM 7/2/00 +0100, you wrote:
> These are the WRG 6th Edition lists, correct to 11 September 1982. I
>have retyped them, and attempted to find and correct any previous typos.
>Any changes from the previously released lists are corrections to
>typographic errors. (Or new typos on my part!). (This is the original list,
> and these are the corrections, and these are the NASAMW corrections).
>List 76. Palmyran (Dry) AD260- 272 C-in-C mounted on horse as SHC, L, or as
>EHC, HC, L, JLS, Sh, @ 100 pts 1 PA standard to accompany C-in-C, @ 30 pts
>0-1 Sub-general mounted on horse as SHC, L, @ 50 pts 0-4 Roman sub-general
>mounted on horse as HC, JLS, Sh, @ 50 pts *1 Palmyran cavalry "Reg C" HC,
>L, Sh, @ 10 pts 0-72 Extra to upgrade Palmyran cavalry to EHC, 0-1/2 B, @ 0
>pts, rest L, Sh, @ 2 pts 0-1/2 Extra to upgrade Palmyran cavalry to SHC, @
>6 pts if HC or EHC, B, or @ 4 pts if EHC, L, Sh all/0 Extra to upgrade
>Palmyran cavalry to "Reg B", @ 1 pt 0-48 Regular light cavalry "Reg C" LC,
>JLS, B, Sh, @ 10 pts 0-12 Volunteer light cavalry "Irr B" LC, B, @ 5 pts
>0-20 Regular archers "Reg C" LMI or LI, B, @ 3 pts 20-48 Extra to give Sh
>to regular archers, @ 1 pt any Irregular archers "Irr C" LI, B, @ 2 pts
>0-30 Caravan guards "Irr C" HCm, JLS, B, Sh, @ 13 pts 0-10 Light
>bolt-shooter with "Reg C" crew of 2, @ 20 pts 0-2 Roman cavalry "Reg C" HC,
>JLS, Sh, @ 10 pts *5-12 Roman Moorish cavalry "Reg C" LC, JLS, Sh, @ 8 pts
>0-6 Roman legionaries "Reg C" MI, HTW, Sh, @ 5 pts *24-56 Roman auxiliaries
>"Reg C" LMI, JLS, Sh, @ 4 pts *24-56 Border horse archers "Reg D" LC, B, @
>5 pts 0-12 Arabs "Irr D" up to ½ LCm, JLS or B, Sh, @ 4 pts, rest LC, JLS,
>Sh, @ 6 pts 0-30 Up to 18 Regular Command Factors @ 10 pts Up to 10
>Irregular Command Factors @ 25 pts This list covers the whole period of
>Palmyran independence. Minimums marked * apply only if any of the troops
>referred to as Roman are used. Wargamers refighting the battles between
>Zenobia and Aurelian should not use such troops, and their Roman opponents
>should not use SHC or any troops with bows. Romans should not use Arabs
>unless they already have won at least one previous battle. An
>unaccompanied Palmyran army fights best in open or gently rolling terrain.
>Its most effective tactic is a thundering cataphract charge shot in by
>massed archers. Beware of using so many ancillary troops as to deprive
>yourself of sufficient cataphracts or distract you from deploying them
>properly. Romans are most useful in closer terrain. The reason they are
>classed as sub-ordinate instead of allies is that Odenathus was formally
>appointed commander of Roman forces in the east by Gallienus. Roman
>legionaries can fight in wedge. We tend to forget that Palmyrans here
>Arabs; as such, they now start as HC, L, more typical of the Arabs. The
>option to upgrade to mixed EHC units reflects the Parthian/Sassanid
>influence. The SHC option recognizes the reality that most gamers have the
>more traditional SHC figures.
> See ya,
> &
>Leaan Meys
>ogmeys@...
>ogm@...
>ogmeys@... ----- Original Message ----- <lmb@...>
><WarriorRules@egroups.com> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2000 3:17 AM Subject:
>[WarriorRules] Help with Palmyran list
>Could anyone out there send me the Palmyran list from book 2 for 6th
edition?
>
>THanks in advance
>
>At 01:26 AM 7/1/00 +0100, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>"Holder, Scott " wrote:
>>
>>> I say that with 7 years of directly scoring
>and
>>> As the game has "matured" so have the flood of 5-5
>games.
>>>
>>
>>Strong opinions. I haven't played DBM all that much, but in the four
>tournaments
>>I have participated in, 5-5s were thin on the ground in my games. I had
>one 10-0,
>>and lost a couple by the same score. I think I have had two draws.
>>
>>> The problem here in the states is an inately conservative gaming
population
>>> that ffears change and yet blindly follows it from Phil.
>>
>>I bet it is worse in the UK. We look on the States as a land of independent
>>characters who are willing to ignore the unwritten WRG Papal Infallibility
>>doctrine.
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>> We've looked at all the systems used by others and still
>>> really haven't found anything that captures what we're trying to do,
namely
>>> force people to fight.
>>
>> fair to those games such as Feudal French versus
>Swiss. A
>>French general doesn't really want to mix it, in those circumstances.
>>
>>Paul Szuscikiewicz
>>
>>
>>
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