Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[Greg Regets]

I'm with David on this one ... I don't like the way the table looks
with letters and "chits" all over it. ;-)

These are some very basic, inexpensive and quick ways to avoid this.

Pipe Cleaners: These don't really look all that bad, if you pick the
right colors. Sure, if you pick red, yellow and purple pipe cleaners
they will look a little "loud", but places like Hobby Lobby and
Michael's carry these in several different earth tones, and if you
cut them small enough they don't overly detract from the game. Making
a small easel legend helps out your opponent, if you're inclined to
do such things.

Shrubs, etc ... Glued To Small Bases: Model railroad shops carry
shrubbery is a wide wariety of colors, again, all earth tones. You
can spend $10 and one hour, and make nice markers that actually
enhance the look of the table. You will be amazed at the variety of
things you will find that look really nice.

Recall: Just pull a stand back a little (doesn't everyone do this
already?).

Tired: I think you are screwing yourself when you mark your units
tired on the table, and have never found a rule that says you have to
do this. To me, as long as you are 100% anal about your fatigue
sheet, and 100% accurate in never screwing your opponent when units
are shooting/fighting tired, there is no reason to mark this on the
table.

Again, this is pretty basic stuff ... hope is may have been helpful
to at least someone. :-)

g

[joncleaves]

Tired: I think you are screwing yourself when you mark your units
tired on the table, and have never found a rule that says you have to
do this. To me, as long as you are 100% anal about your fatigue
sheet, and 100% accurate in never screwing your opponent when units
are shooting/fighting tired, there is no reason to mark this on the
table.>>

I totally agree with this and there is no rule that says you have to mark it.
You are required to have the troop perform as tired if it is and your record
must be accurate.

I also think that experienced players keep their own record of the fatigue of
the enemy - at least the key units... i know I do this and also of the other
player's command 'minutes' - at least in tourney games.

BUT - I do think it is a good idea to teach players to mark fatigue in practice
games to help them get used to this aspect of play. It might be, though, that
this is teaching a bad habit. Thoughts on this from newer guys?

J

[Kelly Wilkinson]

Shrubs, etc ... Glued To Small Bases: Model railroad shops carry
shrubbery is a wide wariety of colors, again, all earth tones. You
can spend $10 and one hour, and make nice markers that actually
enhance the look of the table. You will be amazed at the variety of
things you will find that look really nice.

Greg,
"Weeeee are the Knights who say Neee! If you wish to pass through this
Forest, you will return witttth. . . ???. . . A shrubbery!"


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[John Murphy]

Man, I can barely keep track of my own units, let alone the other
guy's! How do you do this without getting entirely screwed up?

Also, do the rules actually prohibit you from putting a marker next
to an enemy unit? For instance what happens at the NICT if you want
to use a marker to remember wether the other guy's unit is shook or
has X FP's but he is keeping good records and does not want his unit
so marked, ugly or otherwise?

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, JonCleaves@a... wrote:
> Tired: I think you are screwing yourself when you mark your units
> tired on the table, and have never found a rule that says you have
to
> do this. To me, as long as you are 100% anal about your fatigue
> sheet, and 100% accurate in never screwing your opponent when
units
> are shooting/fighting tired, there is no reason to mark this on
the
> table.>>
>
> I totally agree with this and there is no rule that says you have
to mark it. You are required to have the troop perform as tired if
it is and your record must be accurate.
>
> I also think that experienced players keep their own record of the
fatigue of the enemy - at least the key units... i know I do this
and also of the other player's command 'minutes' - at least in
tourney games.
>
> BUT - I do think it is a good idea to teach players to mark
fatigue in practice games to help them get used to this aspect of
play. It might be, though, that this is teaching a bad habit.
Thoughts on this from newer guys?
>
> J

[John Murphy]

By way of explaination, I am the kind of guy who can not bear the
agony of pairing all my socks when they come out of the laundry, so
I have one huge jumble of a sock drawer and my wife has learned to
buy me large packs that look all the same! So you see why I find
this as amazing as memorizing the combat charts!

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jjmurphy@s...> wrote:
>
> Man, I can barely keep track of my own units, let alone the other
> guy's! How do you do this without getting entirely screwed up?

[Todd Kaeser]

Personally, I use 4 markers (Red R - rout, Black R - recall/rally, yellow S -
shaken, white D - disorder) for my reference and my opponenets - too often in
the past people have forgotten what is or has happened and this alleviates the
problem. I don't see the problem with markers on the board. I think it also
gives the passerby who has some knowledge of the game an idea of what is going
on w/o a long explination.

Todd Kaeser

John <jjmurphy@...> wrote:

Man, I can barely keep track of my own units, let alone the other
guy's! How do you do this without getting entirely screwed up?

Also, do the rules actually prohibit you from putting a marker next
to an enemy unit? For instance what happens at the NICT if you want
to use a marker to remember wether the other guy's unit is shook or
has X FP's but he is keeping good records and does not want his unit
so marked, ugly or otherwise?

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, JonCleaves@a... wrote:
> Tired: I think you are screwing yourself when you mark your units
> tired on the table, and have never found a rule that says you have
to
> do this. To me, as long as you are 100% anal about your fatigue
> sheet, and 100% accurate in never screwing your opponent when
units
> are shooting/fighting tired, there is no reason to mark this on
the
> table.>>
>
> I totally agree with this and there is no rule that says you have
to mark it. You are required to have the troop perform as tired if
it is and your record must be accurate.
>
> I also think that experienced players keep their own record of the
fatigue of the enemy - at least the key units... i know I do this
and also of the other player's command 'minutes' - at least in
tourney games.
>
> BUT - I do think it is a good idea to teach players to mark
fatigue in practice games to help them get used to this aspect of
play. It might be, though, that this is teaching a bad habit.
Thoughts on this from newer guys?
>
> J




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[Bill Chriss]

> Personally, I use 4 markers (Red R - rout, Black R - recall/rally,
> yellow S - shaken, white D - disorder) for my reference and my
> opponenets - too often in the past people have forgotten what is or
> has happened and this alleviates the problem. I don't see the
> problem with markers on the board. I think it also gives the
> passerby who has some knowledge of the game an idea of what is going
> on w/o a long explination.
>
> Todd Kaeser
>

I use little laminated squares with ROUT, SHAKEN, DISORDERED, or whatever
printed on them. I bought them long ago from a dealer., premanufactured. I
prefer this to the lunky wooden letters, but that is just myown aesthetic
sensibility.



Greek

[Mark Mallard]

In a message dated 10/12/2004 4:18:01 PM GMT Daylight Time,
JonCleaves@... writes:

Tired: I think you are screwing yourself when you mark your units
tired on the table, and have never found a rule that says you have to
do this. To me, as long as you are 100% anal about your fatigue
sheet, and 100% accurate in never screwing your opponent when units
are shooting/fighting tired, there is no reason to mark this on the
table.>>

I totally agree with this and there is no rule that says you have to mark
it. You are required to have the troop perform as tired if it is and your
record must be accurate.

I also think that experienced players keep their own record of the fatigue
of the enemy - at least the key units... i know I do this and also of the
other player's command 'minutes' - at least in tourney games.

BUT - I do think it is a good idea to teach players to mark fatigue in
practice games to help them get used to this aspect of play. It might be,
though,
that this is teaching a bad habit. Thoughts on this from newer guys?




I (our group) like using markers ever since in the other game certain
players at the Worlds were less than honest.

So as suggested nice markers is the way forward, not trusting your opponent
to record his fatigue etc. We do not use a fatigue sheet at all. All fatigues
are recorded by the unit on small pieces of card, as is disorder tired etc.

I have never agreed with the methods described in the rules for showing
disorder as it can lead to problems re measuring.

mark mallard


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