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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:07 pm Post subject: Re: Late Imperial Roman light bolt shooters model and l ist |
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In a message dated 11/6/2005 13:56:08 Central Standard Time,
eforbes100@... writes:
In WRG 7th, according to the 4 horsemen, 2 light bolt shooters on one base
that could fire never happened. You must be seeing sun spots if you have read
this option in 7th. I mean the part in pg 3 (figures on a base) where 7th
allows 1 or 2 light bolt shooters on a base or pg 29 (shooting arcs) that allow
a single bolt shooter on a base to shoot all around. These sections,
according to Jon, do not mean that you get to both mount and shoot 2 bolt
shooters
on 1 base. >>
Indeed. Nothing in 7th allowed you to double the crew. It was meant to
allow for more 2 bolter models for aesthetic reasons, but it did not allow
putting 4 crew on a base. Neither does Warrior.
I suppose this means that if you had mounted 2 bolt shooters on one base
under WRG 7th, you would not be allowed to fire as there would be no provision
under the rules to fire.>>
You can shoot them, but at 2 crew per base, which is all either game allowed.
Also, any thought that pg 30 (shooting by rear ranks or over another body)
that allows "bolt shooters can shoot from a vehicle... over intervening
troops who are at least 40 paces distant from both them and their target" does
not
mean what you might think it says.>>
There is no evidence of Romans shooting bolts over their own troops from a
vehicle. They did not do this because of the danger of the bolt falling short
as the cart is not high enough. I know some folks WANT to shoot bolters on
carts like mortars, but that want does not make it historically accurate.
Removing the option to double mount light bolt shooters, or to shoot them
overhead, is one of the major reasons that I have mostly quit playing Roman
armies under Warrior. Art was one of their major strengths and Warrior has
gutted it.>>
Wow. That's interesting. As a Roman player in both game systems I would
never agree to that.
I would agree that getting four crew light bolters and allowing them to
shoot indirect from carts would make a Roman (or any..) army more desireable.
But the historical strength of the Roman military was its infantry, not its
'double strength howitzers'..lol
Jon
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