Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[Craig Scott]

Hi Folks,

Drepanon striking the front legs off a horse) and 2HCW seemed the
best"
"2HCW seemed the best" or more likely the warrior was skilled and
had guts...
This was a veteran who new Achaemenid horsemanship; unlike the
Hellenes horse, Achaemenid (at least the elite) cavalry is taught to
trample its victims, as the horse rears back its front legs become
vulnerable for a brief moment... That is when a more nimble (one
handed) skilled drepanon sickle sword can slice though the horse's
bunched up tendons and joints... I believe the event we are
discussing occurred in Cyprus or least one of larger eastern
Mediterranean islands.
All the art and carvings from the period seem to confirm the
single hand use.

Sincerely,

Craig


--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "tabletop06897" <lowclan@m...>
wrote:
> We are aware of artistic depictions of Anatolian one-handed
cutting
> weapons, and thought about treating the drepanon as 1HCW in
Classical
> Warrior. However, we consider the availability of 1HCW to be not
> merely a matter of "hardware," but also the training that went
into
> its use. Thus, although the Romans are said to have adopted the
> gladius from the Iberian Spanish, we do not give the latter 1HCW
b/c
> we don't consider their traditional fighting style to warrant that
> treatment. At the same time, we wanted to reflect the nasty
effects
> of the drepanon (at least one account describes a warrior with
> drepanon striking the front legs off a horse)and 2HCW seemed the
best
> option available to us.
>
> BTW, there is no reason to think that the drepanon was used only
with
> the Hoplite aspis (sometimes called hoplon), but it is interesting
to
> see it depicted with what otherwise might not seem to be a
suitable
> shield. (Thanks, Rich, for the cite!) Compare the illustration
on
> page 24 of the Osprey booklet on the Achaemenid Persians, which
shows
> a drepanon-bearing warrior with a rather smaller but still
circular
> shield.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 17:40:08 -0000
> From: "Rich Crosby" <rcrosby@i...>
> Subject: Re: CW List Rules + Rule Question
>
> Lykians should not have 2HCW. The drepanon is a one handed weapon
> used with hoplon. See the Trysa heroon:
>
> http://www.phil.uni-
>
erlangen.de/~p1altar/photo_html/bauplastik/fries/goelbasi_trysa/trysa
6
> .JPG
>
> Rich

The incident is from Herodotus, and I think that the warrior was behind his
master when he chopped the legs from the persian general´s horse. I think that
it was in Cyprus too.
Emilio.





Hi Folks,



Drepanon striking the front legs off a horse) and 2HCW seemed the

best"

"2HCW seemed the best" or more likely the warrior was skilled and

had guts...

This was a veteran who new Achaemenid horsemanship; unlike the

Hellenes horse, Achaemenid (at least the elite) cavalry is taught to

trample its victims, as the horse rears back its front legs become

vulnerable for a brief moment... That is when a more nimble (one

handed) skilled drepanon sickle sword can slice though the horse's

bunched up tendons and joints... I believe the event we are

discussing occurred in Cyprus or least one of larger eastern

Mediterranean islands.

All the art and carvings from the period seem to confirm the

single hand use.



Sincerely,



Craig





--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "tabletop06897" <lowclan@m...>

wrote:

> We are aware of artistic depictions of Anatolian one-handed

cutting

> weapons, and thought about treating the drepanon as 1HCW in

Classical

> Warrior. However, we consider the availability of 1HCW to be not

> merely a matter of "hardware," but also the training that went

into

> its use. Thus, although the Romans are said to have adopted the

> gladius from the Iberian Spanish, we do not give the latter 1HCW

b/c

> we don't consider their traditional fighting style to warrant that

> treatment. At the same time, we wanted to reflect the nasty

effects

> of the drepanon (at least one account describes a warrior with

> drepanon striking the front legs off a horse)and 2HCW seemed the

best

> option available to us.

>

> BTW, there is no reason to think that the drepanon was used only

with

> the Hoplite aspis (sometimes called hoplon), but it is interesting

to

> see it depicted with what otherwise might not seem to be a

suitable

> shield. (Thanks, Rich, for the cite!) Compare the illustration

on

> page 24 of the Osprey booklet on the Achaemenid Persians, which

shows

> a drepanon-bearing warrior with a rather smaller but still

circular

> shield.

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 17:40:08 -0000

> From: "Rich Crosby" <rcrosby@i...>

> Subject: Re: CW List Rules + Rule Question

>

> Lykians should not have 2HCW. The drepanon is a one handed weapon

> used with hoplon. See the Trysa heroon:

>

> http://www.phil.uni-

>

erlangen.de/~p1altar/photo_html/bauplastik/fries/goelbasi_trysa/trysa

6

> .JPG

>

> Rich















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