Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[Mark Stone]

--- On February 15 Ambrose said: ---

> I know stakes only disorder when they are crossed. I assume that
> when they are crossed they reduce the troop's movement as well.
> A stone wall on the other hand disorders close and cav at contact.
> So I would assume that there is some other form of movement
> reduction going on here.

Well, I don't have my rules in front of me (on the road again) but my
recollection is that stakes and stone walls are handled differently. Stakes are
a linear obstacle, and work as you describe. Stone wall is a temporary
fortification, and I'm pretty sure the rules say that mounted CANNOT cross an
undestroyed temporary fortification. So there should be no issue about when
mounted contact troops defending a stone wall, because the answer would be...
NEVER.

Jon, am I right about that?

On a related note: I hadn't really paid close attention to the wording about not
taking the -2 for in contact when support shooting involves an obstacle. The
present wording seems to suggest that neither chargers nor defenders of an
obstacle take the -2. In other words, if I charge longbowmen defending stakes
with some sort of bow-armed mounted (a dubious prospect, I grant you), my
mounted would not take a -2 for in contact when prep shooting either. Jon, is
that what you intended?

-Mark Stone

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, Mark Stone <mark@...> wrote:
>
>
> Well, I don't have my rules in front of me (on the road again) but
my
> recollection is that stakes and stone walls are handled
differently. Stakes are
> a linear obstacle, and work as you describe. Stone wall is a
temporary
> fortification, and I'm pretty sure the rules say that mounted
CANNOT cross an
> undestroyed temporary fortification. So there should be no issue
about when
> mounted contact troops defending a stone wall, because the answer
would be...
> NEVER.
>
> Jon, am I right about that?
>

In the example I used I did say cav. But the intent of the question
is for any charger. I am just trying to find out if the move
distance is reduced. If LMI charge a stone wall will they have to
charge from 80 paces or 120?

Ambrose

[joncleaves]

On a related note: I hadn't really paid close attention to the wording about not
taking the -2 for in contact when support shooting involves an obstacle. The
present wording seems to suggest that neither chargers nor defenders of an
obstacle take the -2. In other words, if I charge longbowmen defending stakes
with some sort of bow-armed mounted (a dubious prospect, I grant you), my
mounted would not take a -2 for in contact when prep shooting either. Jon, is
that what you intended?>>
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Yes.

Jon


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[joncleaves]

In the example I used I did say cav. But the intent of the question
is for any charger. I am just trying to find out if the move
distance is reduced. If LMI charge a stone wall will they have to
charge from 80 paces or 120? >>

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120p. They will not be able to cross the wall until they win the combat.

Jon


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