Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

Kollmer wrote:
Matt and I played a game of Warrior since he never play it before

SCENE: 180AD Rhine/Danubian Frontier.
Matt's(Herman)2000pt Early German Army vs Ed's(Maximus/Livius(for
those who remember "Fall of the Roman Empire")) Danubian Early
Imperial Romans.

Somehow the artillery were not as effective as in the
movie"Galdiator" . Anyway, the Romans lost. But we had some
questions . Mainly about Palisades, since we both never use them
before.

1. 9.5 Attacking a Defended Obstacle. It says that troops attacking
troops defending a ditched Palisades CAN be disordered. Is it only
close formation troops or all troops?What does "can " mean since in
5.221 Cessation-cured Disorder Close or mounted troops in or
crossing difficult terrain are disordered? Also are Cavalry now
disordered just being in difficult terrain as in 6.714 not just when
charging?


2.How many ranks can defend a ditched palisade? Could I have 2 ranks
of Auxilia defend? First rank Jls and second of Bow?


3.Does charging bonus count against ditched palisades?


4. Do units defending ditched palisades count as higher or is it the
same as the example at the botton of pg46 9.42 linear obstacle do
not count higher?


5. When do you place the ditched palisades? According to the list I
can get 480paces. Are they placed after positioning terrain, like the
ones I paid for?


lastly,
6. How does one pay for boats? How much does one cost? I read 17.1
but am confused.


I am sorry to take up so much room and ask so many questions but Matt
and I were unsure of the answers.

However, I must commend Jon and the rest of the Horsemen. For the
first time after years of fumbling through the old 7.6, we were
impressed with it's organization and ease of finding things. Nice
job!!!

[joncleaves]

Your questions answered:

<<1. 9.5 Attacking a Defended Obstacle. It says that troops attacking troops
defending a ditched Palisades CAN be disordered. Is it only close formation
troops or all troops?>>

9.5 is poorly worded and I will fix it. Obstacles disorder close formation and
mounted troops that cross them. Palisades are obstacles.

<<Also are Cavalry now disordered just being in difficult terrain as in 6.714
not just when
charging?>>

Mounted are disordered by moving in or across Very rough areas and Obstacles at
any time. They are disordered by Rough areas only when charging. I suppose you
could set up mounted troops in a very rough area and they would not be
disordered until they moved in any way.

<<2.How many ranks can defend a ditched palisade? Could I have 2 ranks of
Auxilia defend? First rank Jls and second of Bow?>>

Yes and yes.

<<3.Does charging bonus count against ditched palisades?>>

Yes.

<<4. Do units defending ditched palisades count as higher or is it the same as
the example at the botton of pg46 9.42 linear obstacle do not count higher?

We have not decided yet. We are reviewing the whole wagon/chain/palisade/ditch
thing.

<<5. When do you place the ditched palisades? According to the list I can get
480paces. Are they placed after positioning terrain, like the ones I paid for?

Yes.

<<6. How does one pay for boats? >>

We are also going over boats. What I can tell you is this:
-They cost 1 point per fighting figure and will be transport.
-They are not ships, so you can't shoot artillery from them. That won't happen
until Fleet Warrior and those ships will not be 1 point per element.
-We are looking at how transported elements fight, but there is little chance a
unit transported by boats will be able to do more than row.

Hope this helps. The final rules will square away boats and obstacles. I am
encouraged by the fact that your questions all revolved around our two hottest
issues.

Jon

[joncleaves]

A boat in Warrior is a small craft that does not provide the deck, stability
or space to successfully shoot. Also in a boat, many of the transported
troops are participating in moving it.

The thing you can shoot from is called a ship. Ships will be in Fleet
Warrior. They will not cost 1 point per figure. You will be able to shoot
from them. Some of the larger ones will accomodate the firing of artillery.

Boats will be in Warrior. They will cost 1 point per transported figure.
You will not be able to shoot from them.

Jon

[Jevon Garrett]

So, John, are you saying that troops won't be allowed to shoot from
boats anymore (say with bows, etc.?)

Jevon

>
> <<6. How does one pay for boats? >>
>
> We are also going over boats. What I can tell you is this:
> -They cost 1 point per fighting figure and will be transport.
> -They are not ships, so you can't shoot artillery from them. That
> won't happen until Fleet Warrior and those ships will not be 1 point
> per element. -We are looking at how transported elements fight, but
> there is little chance a unit transported by boats will be able to do
> more than row.
>

A question on palisades. 6.71 talks about obstacles and palisades as
field defences. If they are field defences, mounted CANNOT cross
them except at gates / openings. Could mounted attack the troops
behind the palisade but not follow-up unless there is a gap in the
wall?



--- In WarriorRules@egroups.com, JonCleaves@a... wrote:
> Your questions answered:
>
> <<1. 9.5 Attacking a Defended Obstacle. It says that troops
attacking troops defending a ditched Palisades CAN be disordered. Is
it only close formation troops or all troops?>>
>
> 9.5 is poorly worded and I will fix it. Obstacles disorder close
formation and mounted troops that cross them. Palisades are
obstacles.
>
> <<Also are Cavalry now disordered just being in difficult terrain
as in 6.714 not just when
> charging?>>
>
> Mounted are disordered by moving in or across Very rough areas and
Obstacles at any time. They are disordered by Rough areas only when
charging. I suppose you could set up mounted troops in a very rough
area and they would not be disordered until they moved in any way.
>
> <<2.How many ranks can defend a ditched palisade? Could I have 2
ranks of Auxilia defend? First rank Jls and second of Bow?>>
>
> Yes and yes.
>
> <<3.Does charging bonus count against ditched palisades?>>
>
> Yes.
>
> <<4. Do units defending ditched palisades count as higher or is it
the same as the example at the botton of pg46 9.42 linear obstacle
do not count higher?
>
> We have not decided yet. We are reviewing the whole
wagon/chain/palisade/ditch thing.
>
> <<5. When do you place the ditched palisades? According to the list
I can get 480paces. Are they placed after positioning terrain, like
the ones I paid for?
>
> Yes.
>
> <<6. How does one pay for boats? >>
>
> We are also going over boats. What I can tell you is this:
> -They cost 1 point per fighting figure and will be transport.
> -They are not ships, so you can't shoot artillery from them. That
won't happen until Fleet Warrior and those ships will not be 1 point
per element.
> -We are looking at how transported elements fight, but there is
little chance a unit transported by boats will be able to do more
than row.
>
> Hope this helps. The final rules will square away boats and
obstacles. I am encouraged by the fact that your questions all
revolved around our two hottest issues.
>
> Jon