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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:54 pm Post subject: RE: Potential French Ordonnance Change |
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I do have a suggestion that would help French Ord armies behave closer to what I
believe better fits how they operated and fits within the current list context.
>Thanks for the suggestion. I very respectfully don't agree with it, however.
I approached these troops "from the ground up" as opposed to "from the horse
down". My reading of the ordonnances, as well as others (Phil, Perry Grey of
Medieval Warfare) indicates that how they are currently portrayed in FeudWar
fits how they operated. Phil takes the Ordonnance Bowmen more to an extreme in
terms of total abandonment of being ground troops, both Perry and myself allow
that as an option since its very clear that the ordonnance dictated "X" number
of archers and if some transmogrified into some type of cavalry, the underlying
policy structure remained, hence why I don't mandate some type of mounting.
Furthermore, any ordonnance mounted that had a battlefield role of strike, etc.,
is covered by the existing Ordonnance Gendarmes and Coustillier downgrade. It's
very clear that these guys, even if mounted, never came close to being
"knights", that wasn't their basic role and as such, they were "ranked"
accordingly (HC upgrade as an option). The JLS option for some reflects a very
limited number of light spears or javelins (ala the Coustilliers) given to these
folks but nothing as widespread as to warrant a 0-1/2 upgrade. Bottom line is
that French armies of this period derived their force structure from the 1445
ordonnances and those dictated archers as depicted in the Ordonnance Bowmen.
Said bowmen were often mounted, some to the degree that they approached true
cavalry as opposed to mounted infantry. That was more of a happenstance
occurance and there is nothing to indicate that the force structure dictated by
the ordonannces significantly changed during the life of this list.
>Now back to Classical Warrior:) :)
scott
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