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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:30 am    Post subject: replacing troops in combat


What is the correct way to replace a tired or low morale unit that
is engaged in hand to hand combat by interpenetration from behind by
a fresh, friendly unit?

Historically, it seems I should be able to do this with any type of
troop: a fresh unit of troops interpenetrates into the front line to
start fighting and the tired unit of fighters stumbles off into the
rear to rest.

The rule that governs this however is vaguely written in the
ruleset: it seems that a close order infantry unit would be unable
to replace another close order infantry unit whereas a LI unit could
replace anyone.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: replacing troops in combat


<<What is the correct way to replace a tired or low morale unit that
is engaged in hand to hand combat by interpenetration from behind by
a fresh, friendly unit?

Historically, it seems I should be able to do this with any type of
troop: a fresh unit of troops interpenetrates into the front line to
start fighting and the tired unit of fighters stumbles off into the
rear to rest.

The rule that governs this however is vaguely written in the
ruleset: it seems that a close order infantry unit would be unable
to replace another close order infantry unit whereas a LI unit could
replace anyone.>>

The rule that governs this is:

6.523 Replacing in Combat. If a body is otherwise permitted (6.163), it may
interpenetrate a body in contact with the
enemy and replace it in hand to hand combat. The movement of the charging body
through the body in contact must be a legal
interpenetration (see above). The charging body completes its charge and the
body replaced is moved to behind the charger the minimum distance necessary to
be clear.

Therefore it is true that *generally* close or loose order foot may not replace
close or loose order foot, as that is not a legal interpenetration.
There are exceptions, by list rule, for folks like the Aztecs and Romans. The
Swiss can do something similar.

Most replacements I see (and do) are mounted through lights.

Jon


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 9:40 am    Post subject: Re: replacing troops in combat


Thanks for the clarification. I live in China and there is no one around here
to ask.

JonCleaves@... wrote:<<What is the correct way to replace a tired or low
morale unit that
is engaged in hand to hand combat by interpenetration from behind by
a fresh, friendly unit?

Historically, it seems I should be able to do this with any type of
troop: a fresh unit of troops interpenetrates into the front line to
start fighting and the tired unit of fighters stumbles off into the
rear to rest.

The rule that governs this however is vaguely written in the
ruleset: it seems that a close order infantry unit would be unable
to replace another close order infantry unit whereas a LI unit could
replace anyone.>>

The rule that governs this is:

6.523 Replacing in Combat. If a body is otherwise permitted (6.163), it may
interpenetrate a body in contact with the
enemy and replace it in hand to hand combat. The movement of the charging body
through the body in contact must be a legal
interpenetration (see above). The charging body completes its charge and the
body replaced is moved to behind the charger the minimum distance necessary to
be clear.

Therefore it is true that *generally* close or loose order foot may not replace
close or loose order foot, as that is not a legal interpenetration.
There are exceptions, by list rule, for folks like the Aztecs and Romans. The
Swiss can do something similar.

Most replacements I see (and do) are mounted through lights.

Jon

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