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		Don Coon Imperator
  
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 2:07 am    Post subject: Rules | 
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Just got back from vacation.  I do not see the new rules update in
 
the
 
files.  Did I miss them, or are they delayed?
 
 
Don
 
 
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		joncleaves Moderator
  
  
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				 Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 3:13 am    Post subject: Re: Rules | 
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Don, I am slaving away over them right now.  It will still SEEM like July
 
10th to me when I post them, but they will be here when normal folks get up
 
in the morning.
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2002 10:18 pm    Post subject: rules | 
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I have played 7th for years you guys did a great job on rewrite fast
 
warrior looks great any time table for next army list
 
 
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		joncleaves Moderator
  
  
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				 Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2002 10:30 pm    Post subject: Re: rules | 
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--- In WarriorRules@y..., "raiderd23" <raiderd@m...> wrote:
 
> I have played 7th for years you guys did a great job on rewrite
 
fast  warrior looks great any time table for next army list
 
 
Thanks, Raider!
 
 
Dark Age Warrior is looking good and I see no reason why it won't be
 
out in time for Cold wars, 19-21 April.
 
 
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		scott holder Moderator
  
  
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				 Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2002 11:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Re: rules | 
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Dark Age Warrior is looking good and I see no reason why it won't be
 
out in time for Cold wars, 19-21 April.
 
 
>We are entering the home stretch with Dark Age Warrior.  We are almost finished
 
with the last comment stage (in fact, that should be done by next weekend). 
 
Then it's a cover and final formatting.
 
 
>Holy Warrior is 1/3 done, at least the first draft (which takes the longest and
 
requires the most work).  I'm working on the Early Crusader list in between Dark
 
Age Warrior issues.  The target date is November 2002 although if it can be done
 
earlier......Don't forget to hit the website and look at the various ways we
 
have displayed the army lists.  That'll give you an idea of what's included in
 
which book.
 
 
Scott
 
List Ho
 
 
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		Mark Mallard Centurion
  
 
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2002 2:07 pm    Post subject: Rules | 
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I have been following both sides of the debate on regular unit size and
 
expansion.
 
 
I think debate is healthy, without it there is just stagnation.
 
 
I understand that the rules are not supposed to be subject to change as such
 
but...
 
 
Would it not be wise to have a rules committee look the rules over
 
periodically, to  ensure our game grows rather than stagnates and rules that
 
seem to be problematic can be improved.
 
 
The rule ammendments could even be voted on over the internet.
 
 
I just want to play a game where we are all playing by the same rules.
 
 
I am collecting together answers to questions posed by myself and others to
 
use as my own question and answer booklet, so every answer is useful.
 
 
Jon must get fed up with all the questions, but over time as issues are
 
resolved, questions will become less in number.
 
 
Jon, keep up the good work.
 
 
mark mallard
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2002 6:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Rules | 
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Mark, isn't the officail FAQ useful to you? Y have your own FAQ? OK, I
 
admit, not ALL questions fit in the FAQ. But all the IMPORTANT ones are
 
there. The next FAQ update will be a big one indeed, as we covered a lot of
 
new stuff.
 
 
As far as a 'rules com', I thought we already had one...FHE ;)
 
 
 
--Kurt
 
 
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		joncleaves Moderator
  
  
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2002 6:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Rules | 
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Actually Mark - we have a system for that called x-rules.  See my other post.
 
 
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		Mark Mallard Centurion
  
 
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				 Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2002 7:33 am    Post subject: Re: Rules | 
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In a message dated 9/3/02 5:06:04 PM GMT Daylight Time, sheol@... writes:
 
 
 
> Mark, isn't the officail FAQ useful to you? Y have your own FAQ? OK, I
 
> admit, not ALL questions fit in the FAQ. But all the IMPORTANT ones are
 
> there. The next FAQ update will be a big one indeed, as we covered a lot of
 
> new stuff.
 
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> As far as a 'rules com', I thought we already had one...FHE  
 
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> --Kurt
 
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Yes very very useful, keep it up, expand it. But not as portable as my hard
 
copy including as many answers as i can collect. My computer is in a
 
different room etc.
 
 
mark mallard
 
 
 
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		Mark Mallard Centurion
  
 
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				 Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2002 7:48 am    Post subject: Re: Rules | 
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In a message dated 9/3/02 4:47:05 PM GMT Daylight Time, JonCleaves@...
 
writes:
 
 
 
> Actually Mark - we have a system for that called x-rules.  See my other post.
 
>
 
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Ah but, i agree with another poster, i would like to see the good x rules
 
incorporated into the main body of rules. The x rules that actually improve
 
the game. I am not after a rewrite here just a sensible approach to
 
improvement. A sort of darwinian approach, even chess has evolved.
 
 
mark mallard
 
 
 
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		joncleaves Moderator
  
  
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				 Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2002 10:26 am    Post subject: Re: Rules | 
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In a message dated 9/4/2002 03:48:10 Central Daylight Time,
 
markmallard77@... writes:
 
 
 
> Ah but, i agree with another poster, i would like to see the good x rules
 
> incorporated into the main body of rules. The x rules that actually improve
 
>
 
> the game. I am not after a rewrite here just a sensible approach to
 
> improvement. A sort of darwinian approach, even chess has evolved.
 
>
 
 
Of course that assumes that the reform (or any other x-rule) is an
 
improvement.  Two or three (or even more actually) players just saying so
 
will never be good enough.  It would take playtesting with reports from
 
actual games played as a primary factor, not just the vocal minority, which I
 
will never use as a decision-making criterion.  The vocal minority has a
 
stranglehold on other game systems that I will not allow with our.
 
Opinions matter to me, don't get me wrong.  They make me do things, like
 
write x-rules (despite the dissatisfaction that seems to produce in those
 
canvassing for unplaytested rules changes...) and reevaluate my own opinions
 
of what we want the rules to do.  But a simple request to change the rules,
 
without serious playtesting and a host of other things, will never, ever be
 
enough.
 
 
 
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		Don Coon Imperator
  
 
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 2:54 am    Post subject: Re: Re: RULES | 
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4E LHI LTS,B,Sh REG B in 2X2.  Uses manuever "contract" to go to 1X4.  Uses
 
change in formation to adopt skirmish (foes in shooting range) and decides
 
to change frontage into a 2X2.  Does this all in 1 approach move 120p from
 
an enemy body directly to its front.
 
 
Legal?
 
 
Don
 
 
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		Mark Mallard Centurion
  
 
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 9:31 am    Post subject: Re: Re: RULES | 
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In a message dated 9/28/2004 12:52:58 AM GMT Daylight Time,
 
jjendon@... writes:
 
 
4E LHI  LTS,B,Sh REG B in 2X2.  Uses manuever "contract" to go to 1X4.   Uses
 
change in formation to adopt skirmish (foes in shooting range) and  decides
 
to change frontage into a 2X2.  Does this all in 1 approach  move 120p from
 
an enemy body directly to its  front.
 
 
Legal?
 
 
Don
 
 
 
 
I think i can understand why someone might try this. To move sideways to
 
position bettter. But is this not covered by the rule that says you cannot
 
contract and expand in the same maneuver.
 
 
I await jon`s answer of course.
 
 
mark mallard
 
 
 
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		joncleaves Moderator
  
  
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 10:58 am    Post subject: Re: Re: RULES | 
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In a message dated 9/27/2004 18:52:59 Central Daylight Time,
 
jjendon@... writes:
 
 
4E LHI  LTS,B,Sh REG B in 2X2.  Uses manuever "contract" to go to 1X4.   Uses
 
change in formation to adopt skirmish (foes in shooting range) and  decides
 
to change frontage into a 2X2.  Does this all in 1 approach  move 120p from
 
an enemy body directly to its  front.
 
 
Legal?>>
 
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Yes.  Of course one would wonder why on earth someone would need to  make
 
that move that way (since the body could have just changed to skirmish and 
 
still
 
had its full move left...), but I am sure you have a reason...lol
 
 
J
 
 
 
 
 
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		Greg Regets Imperator
  
 
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 4:42 pm    Post subject: Re: RULES | 
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I think he is talking about contracting from his right side with his
 
first formation change, then forming skirmish, expanding out on his
 
left side.
 
 
This is legal as I understand it (I think we had this conversation on
 
the board once before) but does "somewhat" seem like contracting on
 
one side and expanding on another. I think at the time of the old
 
conversation, it was pointed out that skirmishers are "changing
 
frontage" rather than expanding, so are not in violation of the rule.
 
 
Might be a good place for a wording tweek. :-)
 
 
g
 
 
 
 
--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, JonCleaves@a... wrote:
 
> In a message dated 9/27/2004 18:52:59 Central Daylight Time,
 
> jjendon@c... writes:
 
>
 
> 4E LHI  LTS,B,Sh REG B in 2X2.  Uses manuever "contract" to go to
 
1X4.   Uses
 
> change in formation to adopt skirmish (foes in shooting range) and
 
decides
 
> to change frontage into a 2X2.  Does this all in 1 approach  move
 
120p from
 
> an enemy body directly to its  front.
 
>
 
> Legal?>>
 
> [
 
> Yes.  Of course one would wonder why on earth someone would need
 
to  make
 
> that move that way (since the body could have just changed to
 
skirmish and  still
 
> had its full move left...), but I am sure you have a reason...lol
 
>
 
> J
 
>
 
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