Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[John Murphy]

This is almost embarrassing to ask it seems so basic.

When wheeling a unit 45 degrees at the start of a move, how exactly do
you then measure the distance moved?

Do you measure along the outside arc, around the curve? Do you measure
in two segments, first the "chord" of the arc and then the straight
distance? Or do you measure just the initial and final points straight
across?

The discussion in the game involved my rather lazy, and admittedly
incorrect, practice of moving the 45 degrees directly off the outside
corner instead of wheeling properly. In the game the degree of wheeling
was potentially a difference and my opponent was absolutely correct
anyway. But it raised the question in my mind about just exactly how the
distance measurement itself is "officially" supposed to be done in
Warrior.

[joncleaves]

In a message dated 12/8/2003 9:06:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,
jjmurphy@... writes:

> This is almost embarrassing to ask it seems so basic.
>
> When wheeling a unit 45 degrees at the start of a move, how exactly do
> you then measure the distance moved?
>
> Do you measure along the outside arc, around the curve? Do you measure
> in two segments, first the "chord" of the arc and then the straight
> distance? Or do you measure just the initial and final points straight
> across?
>
> The discussion in the game involved my rather lazy, and admittedly
> incorrect, practice of moving the 45 degrees directly off the outside
> corner instead of wheeling properly. In the game the degree of wheeling
> was potentially a difference and my opponent was absolutely correct
> anyway. But it raised the question in my mind about just exactly how the
> distance measurement itself is "officially" supposed to be
> done in
> Warrior.>>

For most units in most situations, simply measuring the distance from the
outside corner in a straight line will work.

When it doesn't work is for units with a long front rank wheeling any
significant distance. The 'right' way is to measure with two sticks - one
measuring the distance and another, extending from the pivot corner out along
the face of the unit, used to keep the front rank in alignment without moving
the pivot corner. Longer units, you will find, cannot wheel a full 45 degrees
and their full movement and keep the pivot corner from moving.

Charlie Randow did a great diagram on this, I will look for it.

Thanks Jon. The file is on the Yahoo site, under Files, PB Folder,
moves.pdf.

In that image, there are 5 different versions of how people wheel. In
the example, they are wheeling 45 degrees and moving as far as
possible. By the way, the correct answer is #4.


> Charlie Randow did a great diagram on this, I will look for it.
>


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[joncleaves]

In a message dated 12/8/2003 10:58:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, clr198@...
writes:

> Thanks Jon. The file is on the Yahoo site, under Files, PB Folder,
> moves.pdf.
>
> In that image, there are 5 different versions of how people wheel. In
> the example, they are wheeling 45 degrees and moving as far
> as
> possible. By the way, the correct answer is #4.>>

A picture of number four will eventually be an example in the Warrior reprint.

[John Murphy]

Yeah, I habitually do #3 all the time with units only 1-2 elements
wide, simply because it is quicker and easier to measure. Saves
breaking out the "wheel stick" and having to make two measurements.

But it is obviously not the correct way since it isn't a "wheel" and
basically has the effect of turning too tight.

I just wasn't sure which of the others was right in Warrior - and to
make matters worse, if I understand correctly, there is a difference
between Barker-heritage rule systems in how to do this (some just
have the distance start to end without two seperate segments).

Anyway, thanks for clearing that up.

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, Charles Randow <clr198@p...>
wrote:
> Thanks Jon. The file is on the Yahoo site, under Files, PB Folder,
> moves.pdf.
> In that image, there are 5 different versions of how people wheel.
In
> the example, they are wheeling 45 degrees and moving as far as
> possible. By the way, the correct answer is #4.

[Todd Schneider]

Napoleon's Battles had a wheel marker that was
included in the box. Put it on a transparancy and it
worked well. There should be a way to do something
similar for warrior using the 40mm frontage and 40P
movement...

Todd

--- "J. Murphy" <jjmurphy@...> wrote:

---------------------------------
Yeah, I habitually do #3 all the time with units only
1-2 elements
wide, simply because it is quicker and easier to
measure. Saves
breaking out the "wheel stick" and having to make two
measurements.

But it is obviously not the correct way since it isn't
a "wheel" and
basically has the effect of turning too tight.

I just wasn't sure which of the others was right in
Warrior - and to
make matters worse, if I understand correctly, there
is a difference
between Barker-heritage rule systems in how to do this
(some just
have the distance start to end without two seperate
segments).

Anyway, thanks for clearing that up.

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, Charles Randow
<clr198@p...>
wrote:
> Thanks Jon. The file is on the Yahoo site, under
Files, PB Folder,
> moves.pdf.
> In that image, there are 5 different versions of how
people wheel.
In
> the example, they are wheeling 45 degrees and moving
as far as
> possible. By the way, the correct answer is #4.



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