Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[Ed Forbes]

Jon,

Question posed by one of the group that I would like your answer on.
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close order foot and loose order foot mixed into one body.

Is the test for the body or the element.

Does the unit take a waver for being in open and being charged by mounted if:

1. loose order is all in the second rank behind the close order foot.

2. The front rank is a mix of loose and close, but the close order is the
element being chosen to contact.

Thanks

Ed


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[joncleaves]

<<Does the unit take a waver for being in open and being charged by mounted if:

1. loose order is all in the second rank behind the close order foot.>>
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Not if the mounted hit the close.

<<2. The front rank is a mix of loose and close, but the close order is the
element being chosen to contact.>>
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No.

Jon



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Hi Jon - me confused.

Which armies can mix loose and close order troops? I know of only a
few exceptions (like SHC with EHC rear rank for Timurids) and was
wondering if this kind of mixing is really that prevalent?

I had assumed you couldn't really mix different orders except for
certain types (like El with LI on base, or detachments, etc).

Thanks,
-Asif Chaudhry


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mounted if:
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order is the
> element being chosen to contact.>>
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> No.
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[joncleaves]

Asif, there are many. Any army with Brigans, for example. I could not list
them all for you here.

Jon

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From: shahadet_99 <shahadet_99@...>
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:08:10 -0000
Subject: [WarriorRules] Re: rules question:


Hi Jon - me confused.

Which armies can mix loose and close order troops? I know of only a
few exceptions (like SHC with EHC rear rank for Timurids) and was
wondering if this kind of mixing is really that prevalent?

I had assumed you couldn't really mix different orders except for
certain types (like El with LI on base, or detachments, etc).

Thanks,
-Asif Chaudhry


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> <<Does the unit take a waver for being in open and being charged by
mounted if:
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> 1. loose order is all in the second rank behind the close order
foot.>>
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> Not if the mounted hit the close.
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> <<2. The front rank is a mix of loose and close, but the close
order is the
> element being chosen to contact.>>
> [
> No.
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> Jon
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[Ewan McNay]

Well, one example is Brigans, which often have the option to be close or
loose irregular foot. At least one player/team takes them as 7E units: 6E
of close foot plus one extra third-rank Irr LMI element to put them in a a
slightly different spot on the CPF chart.

There are lots, but they're not that commonly seen.

shahadet_99 wrote:

> Hi Jon - me confused.
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> Which armies can mix loose and close order troops? I know of only a
> few exceptions (like SHC with EHC rear rank for Timurids) and was
> wondering if this kind of mixing is really that prevalent?
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> I had assumed you couldn't really mix different orders except for
> certain types (like El with LI on base, or detachments, etc).
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> Thanks,
> -Asif Chaudhry
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