Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[Ed Forbes]

Hi Scott,

I have always wondered why late Swiss, expressly late merc Swiss, do not have
the option to uparmor to EHI. The museum armor and wood cuts seem to support the
upgrade.

If any were to qualify for LEHI status, as do the Japanese, then I believe that
the later Swiss would.

Ed

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[Kelly Wilkinson]

Where were you back in 2003 when I asked this question. Here's a
copy of it and check out the link. ;)

kelly wilkinson
From: "jwilkinson62" <jwilkinson62@y...>
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:09 am
Subject: Swiss EHI





Cruising the internet I found this interesting link. I wonder what
the armor in the lower picture would be classified as. . . or is it
an accurate picture of Swiss soldiers? Oh well, here is the link. . .
http://www.geocities.com/buffalobill70/swissinfantry.html






--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "eforbes100@j..."
<eforbes100@j...> wrote:
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> I have always wondered why late Swiss, expressly late merc Swiss,
do not have the option to uparmor to EHI. The museum armor and wood
cuts seem to support the upgrade.
>
> If any were to qualify for LEHI status, as do the Japanese, then I
believe that the later Swiss would.
>
> Ed
>
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[Ed Forbes]

Just shows that it needs to be looked at

Ed



>Where were you back in 2003 when I asked this question. Here's a
copy of it and check out the link. ;)

kelly wilkinson
From: "jwilkinson62" <jwilkinson62@y...>
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:09 am
Subject: Swiss EHI





Cruising the internet I found this interesting link. I wonder what
the armor in the lower picture would be classified as. . . or is it
an accurate picture of Swiss soldiers? Oh well, here is the link. . .
http://www.geocities.com/buffalobill70/swissinfantry.html






--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "eforbes100@j..."
<eforbes100@j...> wrote:
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> I have always wondered why late Swiss, expressly late merc Swiss,
do not have the option to uparmor to EHI. The museum armor and wood
cuts seem to support the upgrade.
>
> If any were to qualify for LEHI status, as do the Japanese, then I
believe that the later Swiss would.
>
> Ed
>
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[Phil Gardocki]

These pictures have been available for some time, as they were lifted from
Osprey books Men at Arms series, Swiss at War, published in 1979.

I would say the artist G.A. Embleton also has a case for his excellent
paintings being pirated.

Phil
-----Original Message-----
From: jwilkinson62 <jwilkinson62@...>
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com <WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 6:09 PM
Subject: [WarriorRules] Re: Scott: List rule and Swiss LEHI


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>Where were you back in 2003 when I asked this question. Here's a
>copy of it and check out the link.
>
> kelly wilkinson
>From: "jwilkinson62" <jwilkinson62@y...>
>Date: Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:09 am
>Subject: Swiss EHI
>
>
>
>
>
>Cruising the internet I found this interesting link. I wonder what
>the armor in the lower picture would be classified as. . . or is it
>an accurate picture of Swiss soldiers? Oh well, here is the link. . .
>http://www.geocities.com/buffalobill70/swissinfantry.html
>
>
>
>
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>--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "eforbes100@j..."
><eforbes100@j...> wrote:
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>> Hi Scott,
>>
>> I have always wondered why late Swiss, expressly late merc Swiss,
>do not have the option to uparmor to EHI. The museum armor and wood
>cuts seem to support the upgrade.
>>
>> If any were to qualify for LEHI status, as do the Japanese, then I
>believe that the later Swiss would.
>>
>> Ed
>>
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[Kelly Wilkinson]

I suggest everyone read the text that talks about the armor as well.

"Philip H. Gardocki" <PHGamer@...> wrote:These pictures have been
available for some time, as they were lifted from
Osprey books Men at Arms series, Swiss at War, published in 1979.

I would say the artist G.A. Embleton also has a case for his excellent
paintings being pirated.

Phil
-----Original Message-----
From: jwilkinson62 <jwilkinson62@...>
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com <WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 6:09 PM
Subject: [WarriorRules] Re: Scott: List rule and Swiss LEHI


>
>
>
>Where were you back in 2003 when I asked this question. Here's a
>copy of it and check out the link.
>
> kelly wilkinson
>From: "jwilkinson62" <jwilkinson62@y...>
>Date: Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:09 am
>Subject: Swiss EHI
>
>
>
>
>
>Cruising the internet I found this interesting link. I wonder what
>the armor in the lower picture would be classified as. . . or is it
>an accurate picture of Swiss soldiers? Oh well, here is the link. . .
>http://www.geocities.com/buffalobill70/swissinfantry.html
>
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>--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "eforbes100@j..."
><eforbes100@j...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Scott,
>>
>> I have always wondered why late Swiss, expressly late merc Swiss,
>do not have the option to uparmor to EHI. The museum armor and wood
>cuts seem to support the upgrade.
>>
>> If any were to qualify for LEHI status, as do the Japanese, then I
>believe that the later Swiss would.
>>
>> Ed
>>
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As I am currently painting up a Swiss army, the thought of LEHI
pikemen is an exciting one.
Unfortunately, I think the list researchers got it right when they
went no higher than LHI.
Everything I have read ( espescially as late as the Burgundian wars )
indicates that the majority of Swiss were unarmoured. Even those who
did wear armour, the majority did not wear enough to clarify as LEHI.
I think the heavier armour is something that did not become widespread
amongst the Swiss until the early 1500's. By this time they were
operating mostly outside Switzerland and their speed of movement is
not as marked compared our period. They would probably class better as
EHI by this time.
The lack of huge casualties to bow/crossbow armed troops during our
period is more a credit to their highly effective skirmish screens
than armour. Unfortunately, I don't think there is any way under the
rules to properly emulate this. It's going to be fun trying though!!!

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "eforbes100@j..."
<eforbes100@j...> wrote:
>
> Just shows that it needs to be looked at
>
> Ed
>
>
>
> >Where were you back in 2003 when I asked this question. Here's a
> copy of it and check out the link.
>
> kelly wilkinson
> From: "jwilkinson62" <jwilkinson62@y...>
> Date: Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:09 am
> Subject: Swiss EHI
>
>
>
>
>
> Cruising the internet I found this interesting link. I wonder what
> the armor in the lower picture would be classified as. . . or is it
> an accurate picture of Swiss soldiers? Oh well, here is the link. . .
> http://www.geocities.com/buffalobill70/swissinfantry.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "eforbes100@j..."
> <eforbes100@j...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Scott,
> >
> > I have always wondered why late Swiss, expressly late merc Swiss,
> do not have the option to uparmor to EHI. The museum armor and wood
> cuts seem to support the upgrade.
> >
> > If any were to qualify for LEHI status, as do the Japanese, then I
> believe that the later Swiss would.
> >
> > Ed
> >
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