Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

Greetings

As a new member to this list I have a couple of very basic questions
which I hope no-one will mind me asking.

I have been thinking about comparing ancient rule systems using what
15mm figures I have. Because I have a double DBA Polybian Roman army
(with some additions planned) and hoplite Greeks on the painting
table this has focussed my mind on doing a small game based on the
circumstances of the action at Messana in 253 BC between the Romans
and Syracusans.

1. I have an old copy of WRG 7th edition and the old 6th edition
army lists which, I understand, would act as Warrior lists until
Classical Warrior comes out?

2. Assuming that I buy a copy of Warrior in the next few weeks (I'm
in the UK) I think the local stockist is Caliver?

Currently the likely force is:

(Roman) 1 x 2 element HC, 2 x 4 element Principes, 2 x 4 element
Hastati, 2 x 4 element Velites*, possibly 1-2 x 4 element Italian
Campanian allies.

(Syracuse) 2 x 2 element HC, 1 x 2 element LC, 6 x 4 element
Hoplites, 2 x 4 element skirmishers (archers/slingers), 1 x 4 element
Javelins, possibly 1 x 4 element Spanish, possibly 1 x 4 element
Ligurians.

3. How many units would I need to have a small game of Warrior?

4. Presumably the above would have enough elements for Fast Warrior?

Kind regards

Edward

[joncleaves]

In a message dated 11/12/2003 1:16:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
edward_sturges@... writes:

> 1. I have an old copy of WRG 7th edition and the old 6th edition
> army lists which, I understand, would act as Warrior lists until
> Classical Warrior comes out?

Those lists are still good until superceded by one of our lists.

>
> 2. Assuming that I buy a copy of Warrior in the next few weeks (I'm
> in the UK) I think the local stockist is Caliver?

It is.

>
> Currently the likely force is:
>
> (Roman) 1 x 2 element HC, 2 x 4 element Principes, 2 x 4 element
> Hastati, 2 x 4 element Velites*, possibly 1-2 x 4 element Italian
> Campanian allies.

Fast Warrior List:
69) Polybian Roman. Warm.
CinC 2E Reg A HC JLS, Sh
x2 Hastati/Princepi 6E Reg C HI HTW, Sh*
Triari 2E Reg B HI LTS, Sh*
Spanish Scutarii 4E Irr C LMI HTW, Sh
Velites 4E Reg C LI JLS, Sh

Looks like you need the Spanish.

> (Syracuse) 2 x 2 element HC, 1 x 2 element LC, 6 x 4 element
> Hoplites, 2 x 4 element skirmishers (archers/slingers), 1 x 4 element
> Javelins, possibly 1 x 4 element Spanish, possibly 1 x 4 element
> Ligurians.

FastWarrior List:
52) Syracusan. Warm.
CinC 2E Reg B HC JLS, Sh
Greek Cavalry 6E Reg C LC JLS, Sh
Mercenary Hoplites 8E Reg C HI LTS, Sh
Syracusan Hoplites 8E Reg D or Irr C MI LTS, Sh
Slingers 4E Reg C LI S, Sh
Archers 4E Reg C LI B, Sh

Looks like you need 4E of LC.

> 3. How many units would I need to have a small game of Warrior?>>

1200 Points is a little less than double most FW lists in terms of elements.

Jon

Many thanks, that's really useful.

Edward

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, JonCleaves@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 11/12/2003 1:16:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
edward_sturges@h... writes:
>
> > 1. I have an old copy of WRG 7th edition and the old 6th edition
> > army lists which, I understand, would act as Warrior lists until
> > Classical Warrior comes out?
>
> Those lists are still good until superceded by one of our lists.
>
> >
> > 2. Assuming that I buy a copy of Warrior in the next few weeks
(I'm
> > in the UK) I think the local stockist is Caliver?
>
> It is.
>
> >
> > Currently the likely force is:
> >
> > (Roman) 1 x 2 element HC, 2 x 4 element Principes, 2 x 4 element
> > Hastati, 2 x 4 element Velites*, possibly 1-2 x 4 element Italian
> > Campanian allies.
>
> Fast Warrior List:
> 69) Polybian Roman. Warm.
> CinC 2E Reg A HC JLS, Sh
> x2 Hastati/Princepi 6E Reg C HI HTW, Sh*
> Triari 2E Reg B HI LTS, Sh*
> Spanish Scutarii 4E Irr C LMI HTW, Sh
> Velites 4E Reg C LI JLS, Sh
>
> Looks like you need the Spanish.
>
> > (Syracuse) 2 x 2 element HC, 1 x 2 element LC, 6 x 4 element
> > Hoplites, 2 x 4 element skirmishers (archers/slingers), 1 x 4
element
> > Javelins, possibly 1 x 4 element Spanish, possibly 1 x 4 element
> > Ligurians.
>
> FastWarrior List:
> 52) Syracusan. Warm.
> CinC 2E Reg B HC JLS, Sh
> Greek Cavalry 6E Reg C LC JLS, Sh
> Mercenary Hoplites 8E Reg C HI LTS, Sh
> Syracusan Hoplites 8E Reg D or Irr C MI LTS, Sh
> Slingers 4E Reg C LI S, Sh
> Archers 4E Reg C LI B, Sh
>
> Looks like you need 4E of LC.
>
> > 3. How many units would I need to have a small game of Warrior?>>
>
> 1200 Points is a little less than double most FW lists in terms of
elements.