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Tactical Retreat

 
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:05 pm    Post subject: Tactical Retreat


Let the record show that Ewan overcame the terrain challenge,
breaking through with two columns of Elephants in one of the gaps
and everything else in the woods. Pretty wild.

Echo the thanks to Jacob Kovel for putting on a great event, with 10
gamers and excellent sportsmenship all around.

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, ewan.mcnay@y... wrote:
>
> Just back from Tactical Retreat, and three great games; thanks to
Jake for
> the organisation and my opponents for the noyment!
>
> We did have a question come up (hypothetical, mostly) about the
use of
> incendiary HTW; as far as I can see they're just a missile wea;pon
with
> range 40p, but several folk thought they could be used as
incendiaries
> somehoe in hth. Am I missing something here?
>
> Also, not really as a rules Q but because it caused general
consternation:
> note that (Jon can please leap in here if this is incorrect) (i)
there is
> no need for >1 element-wodth of a gap being passed in normal
movement,
> even if one or both shoulder are enemy; only in charges would that
double
> the passable size to 2 elements; and (ii) there is no requirement
to stay
> outside 40p of enemy *throughout* an approach move, only to end no
closer
> than 40.
>
> [A 2E unit of my LC considered merrily walking through a 1E gap
between
> opposing spear units in line, then turning around in their rear at
40p.
> Didn't do it, but my opponent and the surrounding tables were in
general
> amazed that anyone would even think it was legal...]
>
> No other real Qs that I recall. And I'm very glad that Jake indeed
> adjusted things to get 3 games in by 8.30 p.m.. One of my games
posed an
> interesting challenge: facing Carthaginian, there's a line of max-
size
> woods. 4 of them. across the centre line, essentially, with some
small
> variation in spacing between the two deployment zones and a total
of maybe
> 6E of gaps between them acros the width of the table. How do you
plan to
> fight there with an army consisting of LC, SHC and elephants? Smile
And what
> is it about Carthaginians that causes my armies fits? Paging Tim
Brown
> and a minor water feature..
>
>
>
> On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 JonCleaves@a... wrote:
>
> >
> > What was aggravating was that if I had KNOWN that my opponent
COULD
> > POSSIBLY get incendiaries, I would have gone into skirmish and
BACKED
> > UP, so I could get the -2 shooting factor, and then I would
have been
> > more effective with MY incendiaries (which I had bought since
my
> > ENEMY had the ABILITY to get TFs, in this case ditch).>>
> > 1. The changes to 14 have been out since December. Not sure
what to tell
> > you about that.
> >
> > 2. The fact of having the incendiaries isn't a secret in any
case.
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------
> >
> > Side note 1: Am I the only one who considers it odd that ditch
or
> > Stone Walls (which incendiaries have NO effect on) enable
either army
> > to get incendiaries?>>
> > The bigger issue is trying to control a guy getting flaming
arrows shooting
> > things using the TF instead of buying them because the other guy
took a TF but
> > using them on his cav. I don't want to write a page of rules
just for
> > another 'strategem', but I will take suggestions. Since the
change in 14, no one
> > has been taking TFs because they didn't want the other guy to
take flaming
> > missiles, so it has not really come up. This leaves TFs and
flaming missiles
> > in the realm of scenarios and more or less out of competition
games and I am
> > personally ok with that. This is the first time someone has
said anything
> > negative about it since the change.
> >
> > I don't know what to tell you about your judge ruling that
flaming arrows
> > had the 11.1 effect of artillery. That's like saying a P fights
like an LTS
> > because they are on the same line as the weapon factors chart...
> >
> >
> >
> > Side question 1: What are the ranges for using incendiary bow?
> > incendiary Crossbow? incendiary Longbow? Are they
ALL "effective 40,
> > no long range", or has this been changed?>>
> > 40p is effective. 120p is long for flaming CB and LB and 80p is
long for
> > flaming B missiles.
> >
> > J
> >
> >
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