Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[joncleaves]

In a message dated 5/12/2005 04:59:09 Central Daylight Time,
craigshar@... writes:

Hi Scott and all,


Can we have "American Leagues" rules, the DH one year (Two army
lists) and "National League" rules (the Iron Man, one list) another?
Both add an interesting flavor to our tournaments; one should not
exclude the other. Comments are welcome.

Sincerely,

Craig>>

Who is the 'we' above, Craig? If it is the NICT qualifiers, they get polled
every year for what is to be the NICT format. I turned mine in a few days
ago, so I know the results will be in soon. The one list/two list question
was on there, so we'll see what the players decided.

If it is the whole NASAMW membership, then your talking theme, mini and open
- which can be any way the players want them also. But given that Scott's
question about the theme this past month got him only TWO responses (even
after asking the question twice) means we do not have the interest level in
non-NICT events yet that would allow the players to have a direct impact on
format. Scott had to pick on his own because almost no one spoke up - at least
from here.

If the 'we' is the whole Warrior playership, whether involved in NASAMW
events or not, then I must again repeat that tourney organizers can have things
any way they want - one list, two lists, different sized tables, deeper
deployment zones, faster times, fixed terrain, x-rules, you name it.

Personally, I think we as a group slave ourselves too much to the NICT
format. I commend Steve and also the capital region guys for their choices to
do
other things than just 14.0 straight up.

I think Scott should add the alternating one-list/two-list idea to next
year's questions. But that only affects one event at one con. I think more
folks should offer up ideas for the theme, mini and open. I think more local
events should experiment with alternate formats. I think that the merits of
what they try should be discussed here to generate new ideas and to build
support for mixing things up at the open, mini, and theme.

Just my $0.02
J







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[joncleaves]

In a message dated 5/12/2005 07:18:22 Central Daylight Time,
jjmurphy@... writes:

errrr.... "non-NICT events" is much more than the Theme, Jon (as
important an event as that is). Scott's request, and kudos to him for
asking, was only related to the theme event for this year at H-con.
And Scott specifically stated in his request that one not answer
unless one was actually going to play in the Theme events. So every
Warrior player without an army from this particular theme period was
pretty much left out of the polling. N'est ce pas?>>


True, very true. But if one is not playing in the theme, one isn't caring
how many lists get used in it.....lol

My point is, what gets done in the non-NICT events is a reflection of the
information Scott gets throughout the year - NOT just from this website (where
a very small percentage of the 584 members speak). If the same five guys
spend all year asking for two list tournaments on WarriorRules, but fifty guys
write Scott offline or talk to him at cons about one list events, which format
should he use? He's not ignoring those five guys, he is going with the
clear majority opinion....

J








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[Craig Scott]

Hi Scott and all,


Can we have "American Leagues" rules, the DH one year (Two army
lists) and "National League" rules (the Iron Man, one list) another?
Both add an interesting flavor to our tournaments; one should not
exclude the other. Comments are welcome.

Sincerely,

Craig
craigshar@...

[John Murphy]

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, JonCleaves@a... wrote:
> But given that Scott's
> question about the theme this past month got him only TWO responses
(even
> after asking the question twice) means we do not have the interest
level in
> non-NICT events

errrr.... "non-NICT events" is much more than the Theme, Jon (as
important an event as that is). Scott's request, and kudos to him for
asking, was only related to the theme event for this year at H-con.
And Scott specifically stated in his request that one not answer
unless one was actually going to play in the Theme events. So every
Warrior player without an army from this particular theme period was
pretty much left out of the polling. N'est ce pas?

[scott holder]

> He's not ignoring those five guys, he is going with the
> clear majority opinion....


What he said. I can't please everybody.

scott

[Tim Grimmett]

Craig--

I intend to pulse the capital region players on format, X-rules and any other
issues before H-con so we, as a group, can decide on which way to go for next
year's round of quarterly tournaments.

That would include John's skirmishing EHC. John, was there another X-rule you
were interested in in the message you forwarded to me?

Put this at the top of the list; I'm not adverse to players changing their lists
round by round in our monthly matchups so players get to implement lessons
learned immediately. I guess that can be variant 2 of your question.

Tim

craigshar2 <craigshar@...> wrote:
Hi Scott and all,


Can we have "American Leagues" rules, the DH one year (Two army
lists) and "National League" rules (the Iron Man, one list) another?
Both add an interesting flavor to our tournaments; one should not
exclude the other. Comments are welcome.

Sincerely,

Craig
craigshar@...




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Greetings Craig,
That sounds like a decent solution.


--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "craigshar2" <craigshar@c...> wrote:
> Hi Scott and all,
>
>
> Can we have "American Leagues" rules, the DH one year (Two army
> lists) and "National League" rules (the Iron Man, one list) another?
> Both add an interesting flavor to our tournaments; one should not
> exclude the other. Comments are welcome.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Craig
> craigshar@c...

[Craig Scott]

Hey Jon and all,

What is, is? I was not trying to get technical, "we" are our fellow
Warrior players in pertains to any event; opens, themes et al (o: I
am in Scott's corner too. I just give him heck because I know we all
care for the best event and that is why Warrior is the preeminent
set of ancient rules to date!

Craig

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, JonCleaves@a... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 5/12/2005 04:59:09 Central Daylight Time,
> craigshar@c... writes:
>
> Hi Scott and all,
>
>
> Can we have "American Leagues" rules, the DH one year (Two army
> lists) and "National League" rules (the Iron Man, one list)
another?
> Both add an interesting flavor to our tournaments; one should not
> exclude the other. Comments are welcome.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Craig>>
>
> Who is the 'we' above, Craig? If it is the NICT qualifiers, they
get polled
> every year for what is to be the NICT format. I turned mine in a
few days
> ago, so I know the results will be in soon. The one list/two
list question
> was on there, so we'll see what the players decided.
>
> If it is the whole NASAMW membership, then your talking theme,
mini and open
> - which can be any way the players want them also. But given
that Scott's
> question about the theme this past month got him only TWO
responses (even
> after asking the question twice) means we do not have the interest
level in
> non-NICT events yet that would allow the players to have a direct
impact on
> format. Scott had to pick on his own because almost no one spoke
up - at least
> from here.
>
> If the 'we' is the whole Warrior playership, whether involved in
NASAMW
> events or not, then I must again repeat that tourney organizers
can have things
> any way they want - one list, two lists, different sized tables,
deeper
> deployment zones, faster times, fixed terrain, x-rules, you name
it.
>
> Personally, I think we as a group slave ourselves too much to the
NICT
> format. I commend Steve and also the capital region guys for
their choices to do
> other things than just 14.0 straight up.
>
> I think Scott should add the alternating one-list/two-list idea to
next
> year's questions. But that only affects one event at one con. I
think more
> folks should offer up ideas for the theme, mini and open. I
think more local
> events should experiment with alternate formats. I think that
the merits of
> what they try should be discussed here to generate new ideas and
to build
> support for mixing things up at the open, mini, and theme.
>
> Just my $0.02
> J
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Craig Scott]

Tim,

Sounds good!

Craig
--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, Tim Grimmett <grimmetttim@y...>
wrote:
> Craig--
>
> I intend to pulse the capital region players on format, X-rules
and any other issues before H-con so we, as a group, can decide on
which way to go for next year's round of quarterly tournaments.
>
> That would include John's skirmishing EHC. John, was there
another X-rule you were interested in in the message you forwarded
to me?
>
> Put this at the top of the list; I'm not adverse to players
changing their lists round by round in our monthly matchups so
players get to implement lessons learned immediately. I guess that
can be variant 2 of your question.
>
> Tim
>
> craigshar2 <craigshar@c...> wrote:
> Hi Scott and all,
>
>
> Can we have "American Leagues" rules, the DH one year (Two army
> lists) and "National League" rules (the Iron Man, one list)
another?
> Both add an interesting flavor to our tournaments; one should not
> exclude the other. Comments are welcome.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Craig
> craigshar@c...
>
>
>
>
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[John Murphy]

The other one was all JLS cav fights 1.5 ranks like L cav. Both these
came from Derek's house X-rules he posted a while back.

Not saying I would like to play that way all the time, but I'd at
least be interested in trying them out. Of course I do not have an
army with EHC anymore, and my JLS (mostly) already _can_ fight 1.5
ranks, but perhaps some of the other players in the area would like to
give it a shot?

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, Tim Grimmett <grimmetttim@y...>
wrote:
> That would include John's skirmishing EHC. John, was there another
X-rule you were interested in in the message you forwarded to me?