Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

In the Maurikian Byz list, there is a provision for
Kavelloroi to be HC with a detachment of LC. How
would this work. If the LC were a detachment, do they
shoot from the rear rank over the HC when not
detached? I'm just not sure how to run such a beast.
Also there is a line for upgrading Ps LHI B, but there
are no LHI Ps in the list.

Can the LC B be run in separate units, or must they be
detachments of the HC. The list doesn't clearly say
one way or the other

TIA
boyd


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[Paul Georgian]

In a message dated 6/27/02 10:48:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Wanax Andron <
vercengetorix@...> writes:

> In the the Maurikian Byz list, there is a provision for
> Kavelloroi to be HC with a detachment of LC. How
> would this work. If the LC were a detachment, do they
> shoot from the rear rank over the HC when not
> detached? I'm just not sure how to run such a beast.
> Also there is a line for upgrading Ps LHI B, but there
> are no LHI Ps in the list.

When I wrote the list, I didn't envision the LC shooting over the heads of
the HC as a consequense of detachments. Given some of the historical
descriptions that might be very plausible. The rules boyz will have to weigh
in on this. Also, I didn' tsee any reference to LHI Ps. LMI Ps yes. Where
is the line?

>
> Can the LC B be run in separate units, or must they be
> detachments of the HC. The list doesn't clearly say
> one way or the other

Yes they were meant to be available as separate units when I wrote the list.
Sorry if it's not clear.

Paul G.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[joncleaves]

<<> Can the LC B be run in separate units, or must they be
> detachments of the HC. The list doesn't clearly say
> one way or the other

Yes they were meant to be available as separate units when I wrote the list.
Sorry if it's not clear.>>

You're good, Paul. The list reads just fine.

Jon

--- In WarriorRules@y..., PaulByzan@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 6/27/02 10:48:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Wanax
Andron <
> vercengetorix@y...> writes:
>
> > In the the Maurikian Byz list, there is a provision for
> > Kavelloroi to be HC with a detachment of LC. How
> > would this work. If the LC were a detachment, do they
> > shoot from the rear rank over the HC when not
> > detached? I'm just not sure how to run such a beast.
> > Also there is a line for upgrading Ps LHI B, but there
> > are no LHI Ps in the list.
>
> When I wrote the list, I didn't envision the LC shooting over the
heads of
> the HC as a consequense of detachments. Given some of the
historical
> descriptions that might be very plausible. The rules boyz will
have to weigh
> in on this.

Fair enough.

Also, I didn' tsee any reference to LHI Ps. LMI Ps yes. Where
> is the line?

My bad. it is in the Thematic list:

Extra to upgrade SKut or Psiloi to mounted infantry with mules @ 8
pts if HI/MI/LHI []


> > Can the LC B be run in separate units, or must they be
> > detachments of the HC. The list doesn't clearly say
> > one way or the other
>
> Yes they were meant to be available as separate units when I wrote
the list.
> Sorry if it's not clear.

this makes the list doable IMO. Having separated the B from the L
will mean the Byz will be able to function as per Strategekon--i.e.
flankers, etc.
Thanks Paul
boyd

>
> Paul G.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In WarriorRules@y..., JonCleaves@a... wrote:
> <<> Can the LC B be run in separate units, or must they be
> > detachments of the HC. The list doesn't clearly say
> > one way or the other
>
> Yes they were meant to be available as separate units when I wrote
the list.
> Sorry if it's not clear.>>
>
> You're good, Paul. The list reads just fine.
>
> Jon

I didn't mean to state that the list was unclear. I mean the notes,
which state "We feel that the armored lancers were not armed with bow
in any number and it is clear the Kavallarioi had the equivilent of
LC in their ranks, hence the allowance for detachments and the use of
bow only by the light component." This could read LC B were ment for
detachments of the HC/EHC and not sepparate units. I thought that
since they are in separate lines they could form separate units, but
I wanted to be sure before I did something unlawful.

Believe it or not, I am trying to understand and play the rules fully
as written :)

boyd

[joncleaves]

<<I thought that since they are in separate lines they could form separate
units, but I wanted to be sure before I did something unlawful.>>

Anything on separate lines MUST be in separate units. Notes may add to this or
supercede it.

In the case of detachments, it will say when a troop MUST be in a det.
Otherwise the command factor lines will tell you when you CAN take them as a det
instead of separately.

I am not aware of a Warrior troop that can ONLY be taken as a det, but I am not
the expert on that. I think in 99%, possibly 100%, of cases a troop can be
either taken as a separate unit or as a det.
Jon

[scott holder]

In the case of detachments, it will say when a troop MUST be in a det.
Otherwise the command factor lines will tell you when you CAN take them
as a det instead of separately.

I am not aware of a Warrior troop that can ONLY be taken as a det, but I
am not the expert on that. I think in 99%, possibly 100%, of cases a
troop can be either taken as a separate unit or as a det.

>There will be no instance where troops are taken only as detachments.
If it's on a separate line, it's a separate unit unless otherwise stated
in the notes or list rules.

scott
list ho

> I am not aware of a Warrior troop that can ONLY be
> taken as a det, but I am not the expert on that. I
> think in 99%, possibly 100%, of cases a troop can be
> either taken as a separate unit or as a det.
> Jon

Thanks Jon.

boyd



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