Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[Chris Bump]

In a message dated 4/3/2004 7:27:19 PM Central Standard Time,
jjmurphy@... writes:
Note for the purposes below I will be away from again and in no way
possible have any chance to even play these, let along buy or paint any
more, prior to Historicon.
Unless you are deploying militarily, I say RUBBISH to this. For nearly the
past year I have been traveling on a schedule of out Sunday, and home on
Friday. Thankfully that gauntlet is over. But my point is that I took lead and
instruments of destruction on the road all the time. Work in the hotel at
night.
Passes the time quickly and there are absolutely no distractions. I even
packed a high intensity light in my bag for detail work. Now I did not paint on
the road much, but that is because I use almost strictly oils and the TSA is
a little more picky about flammables in the bag than they are about acrylics.
I tried taking a bunch of vallejo paints with me a couple of times to paint,
but did not like working with them. So I stopped. But I finished filing and
flashing many, many figures. I am a tweezer butt and so for example I file
off most moulded horse furniture and replace it with my own. But I was able to
do that and then do the painting in the evenings when I was home. My good
friend Don traveled for business once this year and actually shipped his figs
and
paints to the hotel so that they arrived the day before or after (I forget)
he did. He then shipped his figures and paint home from the hotel on the day
that he left. If you keep your projects under control and only take what you
can finish in any given trip, shipping it or packing it in your bag is really
not difficult or expensive. As for ordering lead, I assure you that most
vendors whom you can contact on line will ship to wherever you want them to.

So, in actuality, you have a little more than 3 months to order and paint
those figures that you need and your traveling will actually aid you in these
efforts. All based on the premise that you are not deploying or traveling to
some location where you will not actually be staying in a building with a desk
and electricity. = 8^)
Chris

P.S. If you want tips on how to pack supplies and brushes and such just drop
me a line. I have learned quite a bit from trial and error.


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[John Murphy]

Okay, I am home on break and have access to an exact count of my 25mm
EIR figures for the Historicon Roman theme tournament. Actually good I
checked because it is not exactly what I hoped for.
Note for the purposes below I will be away from again and in no way
possible have any chance to even play these, let along buy or paint any
more, prior to Historicon.

While the tactical wisdom imparted to me by this forum so far has been
invaluable (provided I can remember it all) this should now indicate a
bit better where I am coming from for these and maybe generate some more
immediately useful list-building advice.

Here is what I have, with a set of questions.

(1) Most important, what can best be done to play the current
figures in the theme tourney and get the best results possible from them
(not expecting to win the whole thing anyway). The main idea being a fun
list to play which would permit me to gain the best understanding
possible of how all the troops work together within the context of the
new Imperial Warrior list (and particularly the list rules). I would
enjoy it most if the army made sense from a visual perspective regarding
unit depictions - so where a decision is to be made based on preference
without a major impact on tactics that is what I would like.
(2) What tactical advice would there be to go with the list? Terrain
choices, deployment, how to use the different troop types? Not that I do
not have my own ideas formulated of course but I am curious what other
players would do if forced to play this army (beyond running away
screaming helplessly).
(3) Finally, what should I be looking to add to this army to make it
more fun to play and less easily trounced, maybe even win once in a
while? For my own peculiar reasons the Regular Moorish Light Cavalry are
going to be at the top of this list, followed closely by a whole slew of
cart-mounted bolt shooters. So realizing that what would be the next few
things?

Peak historical interest here lies mostly in Trajan's campaigns (and
those less-successful close to that period) across the Danube and in the
East. But I admit to also having been bit by the Gladiator bug and so I
am also pretty interested in everything from 60 AD up through 190's AD.
Not that that really makes a difference building the army (although the
reason for the Moors over some other light cavalry type or another kind
of troop). But it probably means I'd be looking at the middle period
Danubian or perhaps Eastern section of the list. Dromedaries would be a
neat thing to have too after all.

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Most of the figures are Falcon 25mm. The equites command figures and the
vexilium bearers are Foundry 25mm however.

This army is all based on green flocked metal stands. I have magnetic
unit stands cut to go under the metal element bases with various
frontages in number of elements. This will hopefully make them even more
handy to move around on the table and maybe I can figure a way to stick
some number tags inconspicuously on them to help in record keeping.

Because of the shield curvature for the legions, this army is probably
more representative of the Augustan army than of the Trajanic army which
I am most interested in. But the price was right (this developed from
the army I bought at the Flea Market a con or two ago which some of you
might have seen me worry over how I was going to get away with it with
the wife) so I went this route which only required some rebasing and
painting of additional figures rather than build them more from scratch.

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THE FIGURES AVAILABLE (45 mounted, 138 foot, 3 models)
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21E REGULAR CLOSE ORDER FOOT (60mm x 20mm)
4Ex4 legionary unit command (centurion, cornicen, signifer) / first-rank
legionaries (pilum)
8Ex4 first-rank legionaries (pilum)
9Ex4 back-rank legionaries (gladius)

12E REGULAR LOOSE ORDER FOOT (60mm x 30mm)
4Ex4 auxilia unit command (officer, cornicen, signifer) / auxilia
(javelin)
5Ex4 auxilia (javelin)
3Ex4 auxilia (bow)

14E REGULAR LOOSE ORDER MOUNTED (60mm x 40mm)
3Ex3 general army command (with vexilium bearer and equites bodyguard) -
3 grey horse stands
4Ex3 equites unit command (officer, trumpeter, draco) - 2 bay, 1
chestnut, 1 black horse stands
7Ex3 equites (javelin) - 3 bay, 2 chestnut, 1 black, 1 grey horse stands

3E REGULAR ARTILLERY (60mm x 60mm)
3Ex2 crew with light bolt shooter

3 UNBASED PAINTED FIGURES (just for my own reference, though they might
make handy markers)
2 chestnut horse equites figures
1 grey horse vexillium standard figure

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REPRESENTED AS A WARRIOR ARMY LIST (36 mounted, 124 foot, 2 models)
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(one way for example, for all I know likely a poor one)

1x 2E CinC & Equites
2x 1E Sub-general
4x 2E Equites
4x 4E Legionaries
2x 2E Legionaries
4x 2E Auxilia
1x 2E Auxilia Bowmen
1x 2E Bolt Shooters

leaves 2E Equites, 1E Legionaries, 2E Auxilia (1 jav, 1 bow), 1E
artillery



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[John Murphy]

I'm on a mission from God! <g> That takes precedence over military
deployment and even, yes shudder, over painting toy soldiers.
Seriously, though, you have no idea just take my work for it. All
that would be out of scope for this e-group.

Thanks for the offer of travel advice. That, however, is not the
issue.

Given the response never mind the question anyway. An unreasonable
request I guess. Maybe the best thing to do with them is sell them.

Anyway I'll re-insert the gag until my brain is actually connected
to my typing fingers and I have something more meaningful to
contribute.

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, cncbump@a... wrote:
> I say RUBBISH to this.