Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[Cao_Cao]

I posted this over in tactics as well.

Because we're in Beijing, we do a lot of 'what if X invaded China?'. One matchup we've played again and again is Viking's v. various chinese. It's always a blowout - the vikings get crushed. Especially against armies like the Tang and the Yuan which are really mobile. We got a lot of suggestions over in tactics and we tried them all but this mostly just confirmed what everybody said - the Vikings suck.

But we've got a determined Swede here who is determined to make Vikings work.

So we've started experimenting with boats and this seems to give the vikings something of an edge in maneuverability and safety before they land. However, the enemy can see them coming, then disembarking takes a whole tactical or march phase - very slow. Finally the boats cost a point per figure - it adds up.

So a possible list rule suggestion: Make viking boat travel more powerful?

REASONS
This would be historical. It would empower a now weak but historically tough army. And it would make more valuable, instead of less, anybody's viking figures.

Possible list rules that would make viking boat travel more powerful:

1) Hidden boat movement
2) no movement penalty for embarking/disembarking
3) make boats cheaper for vikings
4) make major water features easier to place for the viking player - maybe only discard on a 1 and then on the side of the player's choosing.
5) expand viking flank charge entry points to include the enemy rear zone on the table half that has the MWF.

This is not a complaint, just a suggestion on how to make the vikings a more playable army. Even without any change, boat travel makes the vikings fun to play. I'm glad we screwed around with them enough to try it.

Cao Cao

[joncleaves]

We're listening.
HCon approaches and we won't start relooking Dark Age and Biblical til after that, but we'll come back to this then.

J

[Cao_Cao]

As a final suggestion, Viking boats could also be faster than normal boats.

I take your caveat about looking at this stuff after HCON to mean we can post and you will respond when you begin to relook at dark and biblical age lists.

Jonathan