Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

vmitom · Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:41 am Post subject: Roman Rules Question

Quick Question:

A Marian Roman HI unit is in HTH in Rough terrain. Rough terrain disorders close foot for a -2 HTH modifier in the first round. Now when the second rank interpenetrates and fights in the next turn, does that second rank also receive the -2 HTH modifier?

Normally the second rank does not receive the -2 in HTH under the Roman rules. However, I would think that since the disorder is not combat caused, the interpenetrated new front rank should also fight disordered.

scott holder · Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:40 pm Post subject:

You are correct. In this circumstance, the new first rank fights disordered.

I need to look at this and see if we need to erratasize the Roman rules to cover it.

In the meantime, this answer will suffice.

scott

Mark Stone · Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject:

browntj007 · Recruit Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 21 Location: NY

From the Imperial Warrior Errata:

"Page 3, Roman Infantry Rules, Circulating Combatants, Delete the entire "Circulating Combatants" section and replace with: CIRCULATING COMBATANTS: Advanced military techniques developed in Rome included the regular practice of circulating ranks and units to the front in hand-to-hand combat. To reflect these practices, as an exception to WARRIOR rules sections indicated below, Marian, EIR, Severan MIR legionaries and those troops named "Roman Legionaries" in lists 2, 3, 8, 14 and are NOT shaken, broken, broken-through, disembarking, in difficult terrain or in "fulcum" may:, etc, etc..." ( Exchange ranks )

Thus, if the unit is in this state it's not even an allowable move. Jon? Scott?

Tim Brown

joncleaves · Moderator Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 16447

That's correct, Tim. That is why Scott answered the way he did. he should not have said "new" first rank because there cannot be one in this instance - essentially its just disordered period and can't make use of the rule in the first place.

scott holder · Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:00 pm Post subject:

My correction stands corrected. This comes from trying to put the finishing touches on the barbarian rules. Yeah, that's it.

scott

joncleaves · Moderator Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 16447

Yes, you must understand that we are keeping Scott chained to a set of barbarian test list rules for HCon this year and Bill and I have been torturing him with tweaks.