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FW List 264 Feudal Japanese

 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:47 pm    Post subject: FW List 264 Feudal Japanese

Hello,

I have some questions regarding this list:

CinC 2E Irr B HK 2HCT all LB or B, PA

1) Does this dismount as LEHI? (P12 2.33 Dismounted Knights)

2) When dismounted, does it retain its 2HCT? (P12 2.33 Dismounted Knights)

Ashigaru 6E Irr C LMI all B or LB or any LTS

Unsure exactly what 'or any LTS' means.

We think it allows you to also give missile-armed troops a close combat weapon. Is this correct?

Thanks, Raphael
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:00 pm    Post subject: Re: FW List 264 Feudal Japanese

As these are really list questions, and not rules questions, I feel safe answering them.

Raphael wrote:
Hello,

I have some questions regarding this list:

CinC 2E Irr B HK 2HCT all LB or B, PA

1) Does this dismount as LEHI? (P12 2.33 Dismounted Knights)

2) When dismounted, does it retain its 2HCT? (P12 2.33 Dismounted Knights)

Ashigaru 6E Irr C LMI all B or LB or any LTS

Unsure exactly what 'or any LTS' means.

We think it allows you to also give missile-armed troops a close combat weapon. Is this correct?

Thanks, Raphael


1) Note the list rules, #2, page 70 of Oriental Warrior, "HK/EHK Samurai Cavalry dismounts as LEHI"...read the entire list rule as it covers 1-for-1 element dismounting, weapons, and morale class

2) Ditto, so yes, they dismount as LEHI and keep the 2HCT (if you paid the points for such)

Note the Ashigaru line is:
"Ashigaru Irr C LMI B or LB or LTS @ 6 pts", not the text you posted here, which is clear. They CANNOT be LTS plus a missile weapon.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:46 pm    Post subject:

Hello Frank,

Thanks for that. The Fast Warrior game was arranged between two players who only had the rulebook, not Oriental Warrior. This made the exact useage of LEHI quite difficult to work out. Add to that the almost unique combination of HK with 2HCT and LB and it was a bit more than I would have liked for a first game!

Are you saying then that the description of Ashigaru from the relevant FW list should also be LB or B or LTS?

I know from previous postings that Scott has said that not everything on the individual full 'big brother' army lists transfers across to Fast Warrior.

Is this not the case with the more general List rules?

e.g. In the game the Japanese C-in-C dismounted, which, from the rules meant he was now classec as Irreg C (I allowed him to keep both 2HCT and LB). Are you are saying there is a List rule about morale class, and that this is not neccessarily applicable here?

(They went through the Reg B Greek Hoplites opposed to them like a hot knife through butter as it was!)

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