Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

Trajan · Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:00 pm Post subject: Flank March surprise

Do units showing up on the flank cause surprise?

The combined Gallic tribes butchered some foolish Athenians who had invaded our lands most of it owing to this

Unit of heavy cav came in behind a unit of hoplites and smashed them in the flank.

Was this reason enough for a waver test?

Apologies to Demosthenes if it was not.

Todd Kaeser · Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:43 pm Post subject:

Flank marches do not count as surprise - sorry to say.

hailkaeser

Ed Kollmer · Centurion Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 1018

Since They came in literally on their flank, charging. About 100 paces from the board edge.
I would have questioned it but it seemed clear.
Ed/Xenophon/Leonidas kollmer
But I will check the rules. Always a good idea!!
Thanks Todd for replying.

Frank Gilson · Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:12 pm Post subject: Correct

Todd is correct...an arriving flank march is not 'surprise' and does not cause a waver. A well executed flank march, arriving in a reasonable time window, is quite good enough.

Ed Kollmer · Centurion Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 1018

I don't have the rules with me but at the time I remember reading something about surprise and waver.
But I will look at it again.
But also how can I argue against Kaeser and Gilson. Sad

EdK