Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[joncleaves]

In a message dated 5/7/2003 17:30:00 Central Daylight Time, gar@...
writes:

> You are right of course Jon ... and my apologies!!!
>
> Greg
>

Hell, Greg, it might have been an evil Scott marketing strategy for all I
know...lol


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[Dave Smith]

JonCleaves@a... wrote:

You want a 25mm game Monday night, Dave? Not everyone here is a
rookie....

***Add me to the rook list. I may look like an old has-been, but
underneath this gray hair and arthritis, I'm as green as grass! Let
me check to see if I can build out a 25mm FW Early Crusader, and
I'll let you know.

Dave

[Dave Smith]

gar@t... wrote:
It seems to me that the way to buy the new list in 15mm is with a
VinG CinC, and a Neopolitan Ally-General. This gives you moral
upgrades for your knights, a ton of Stratiot LC to go with the six
stands of Turks, and the Neo Moogs.
Just my two cents ... G

***Which list are you referring to Greg? The original list book 3,
NASAMW update, or something else?

D

[joncleaves]

In a message dated 5/7/2003 1:55:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
davidsmith@... writes:

> Let
> me check to see if I can build out a 25mm FW Early
> Crusader, and
> I'll let you know.>>

Either way. Bout time some of these rooks saw a game in the manly scale.

[scott holder]

It seems to me that the way to buy the new list in 15mm is with a VinG CinC,
and a Neopolitan Ally-General.
This gives you moral upgrades for your knights, a ton of Stratiot LC to go
with the six stands of Turks, and the Neo Moogs.

>Interesting, expensive, kinda, but very interesting. I think what might drive
some people away would be the Reg C EHK/SHK (you would now be fielding 6
elements of those not counting any you might have stuck with the CinC/Ally)
plus, I've yet to see tons of LC Lancers deployed (the Stradiots). I mean
assuming they're facing the equivalent "Full Service" LC unit (LC JLS, B, Sh).
Take the following example:

6E Full Service LC is 80p away from our 6E of Stradiots. Full Service is gonna
shoot 12@3 in prep at Stradiots. Even with a down 1 roll, the Stradiots are
gonna take the waver test if they want to charge. Obviously if they're outside
of 80p, they don't get hammered by the prep shot but obviously can't be more
than 120p away otherwise what you're hoping to accomplish, the Full Service
evade and roll down while your Stradiots charge and roll up and whammo, no more
Full Service LC unit. The approach/counter sequence then becomes crucial for
either player to get what they want.

>Now, some people (like me) would probably potentially take the waver test when
running the Stradiots (assuming they're not uneasy) since we'd blow the test on
a 1 and anyone who rolls ones deserves to lose. However, that philosophy is not
one shared by all players who consider rolling *any* waver test an anethema to
succesfully prosecuting the battle. Therefore, they might not look upon the
Stradiots as a particularly useful troop type.

scott

[joncleaves]

In a message dated 5/7/2003 2:18:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Scott.Holder@... writes:

> >Now, some people (like me) would probably potentially take the waver test
when running the Stradiots (assuming they're not uneasy) since we'd blow the
test on a 1 and anyone who rolls ones deserves to lose. However, that
philosophy is not one shared by all players who consider rolling *any* waver
test an anethema to succesfully prosecuting the battle. Therefore, they might
not look upon the Stradiots as a particularly
> useful troop type.>>

When I buy B morale LC it is only because I WILL take that waver.

who can believe the lists you play? and that you you
recommended to me? franks? can i be frank?

--- JonCleaves@... wrote:
> In a message dated 5/7/2003 5:13:51 AM Eastern
> Standard Time, gar@... writes:
>
> > I'm just going to accept the fact that everyone
> thinks the
> > lists I play are
> > insane and have no possible chance at victory.>>
>
> whew! man, I am glad we got that finally settled...
>
>


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<<who can believe the lists you play? and that you you
recommended to me? franks? can i be frank?>>

Does Frank come after broken or shaken?

Todd

[Harlan Garrett]

Greg,

What is your current record at tournaments?

Harlan
-----Original Message-----
From: JonCleaves@... [mailto:JonCleaves@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 10:16 AM
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Re: Army dissection


In a message dated 5/7/2003 5:13:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, gar@...
writes:

> I'm just going to accept the fact that everyone thinks the
> lists I play are
> insane and have no possible chance at victory.>>

whew! man, I am glad we got that finally settled... :)


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[Dave Smith]

JonCleaves@a... wrote:
Either way. Bout time some of these rooks saw a game in the manly
scale.

***I'm a little lite on Pilgrims, and heavy on knights, but I'll see
what I can do to morph some other (Viking) figs into the Pilgrim
mix. Cool beans....25mm FW. I'll play First Crusade, and I'll
bring the 4 x 3 terrain board and terrain pieces. Prolly be there
around 7:00.

Dave

[Dave Smith]

"Holder, Scott" wrote:
In the Mini, you'll see healthy participation in both scales (around
a dozen players in each) so don't let that drive you per se.

***I'll go ahead and bring 25mm First Crusaders enter the mini on
Thursday and then the theme on Friday, and on Saturday look to do
some pick-up games.

D

[joncleaves]

In a message dated 5/7/2003 3:52:53 PM Eastern Standard Time,
davidsmith@... writes:

> Cool beans....25mm FW. I'll play First Crusade, and I'll
> bring the 4 x 3 terrain board and terrain pieces. Prolly
> be there
> around 7:00.>>

The only medieval FW I have in 25mm is teuts, but better that than Han for
matchup. This will be great dave - looking forward to it.

[joncleaves]

In a message dated 5/8/2003 07:17:16 Central Daylight Time,
Scott.Holder@... writes:

> >I found this interesting since most players turn their nose up at LC with
> JLS. That's why, like Dave, I enjoy army discussions of this ilk,
> particularly when somebody like Sean goes into gory detail on list
> construction and useage.
>

I like LC with JLS - but only if I am going to split the other guy's LC B
shooting and then charge and kill it as opposed to a simple LC, B skirmish
game myself. If he is forced to an evade, you don't need the JLS - but by
having it you discourage him trying the same thing.


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[scott holder]

Page 61, line 7, upgrade for [Mi, Pa, VG, VI].
Stratiots may also be purchased with JLS, Sh, and it is very difficult in a LC
vs. LC matchup to keep the enemy from getting to 40p.

Sure, you can buy them with lance, take tests and charge, but the question
begs asking ... Are you buying them to win the battle, or to stretch your
frontage
enough to make the enemy go online, so you can get nice matchups with your
better troops?

>I found this interesting since most players turn their nose up at LC with JLS.
That's why, like Dave, I enjoy army discussions of this ilk, particularly when
somebody like Sean goes into gory detail on list construction and useage.

Scott

[scott holder]

Oh Gawd ... it's the Vulcan Death Grip for me now!!!!
~points at Scott~ He said something about Feudal first ... so if you kill me,
you gotta hill him first.
You are right of course Jon ... and my apologies!!!

>Actually, no *sounding like Baldrick* "we had a cunning plan". You see, we
find a patsy (David) to seemingly raise innocent questions about a list that
just *happens* to be in FeudWar. Then we *leak* bits of the list, in reference
only never anything coming close to the entire list, so that people get whipped
up into a state of frenzy where they want not just one copy but several!

>That's my story and I'm sticking to it:):)

Scott