Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[Todd Schneider]

John,

I think Greg's comments are really good.

This is a "n00b's" perspective. I've finally settled on two armies I
am going to play for the next year or more, and am asking the same
questions about the list I chose to run when looking over the one you
posted.

Does it fit your style of play? I don't know what "style" you favor,
but for me it's a primary concern (although theres a great lesson to
be learned in recognizing that your style may not fit the army you've
chosen to play).

Is it balanced? Does it have to be balanced? If it's not balanced,
can that be overcome or comepensated for? Does the list you have fit
your style of play?
What is the purpose of each unit? Are there better units in the list
that can fulfill that same purpose? If yes, why not purchase them
instead (Such as Bulgars over the Pechengs?)

To me, the Varangians are the "strike" infantry, but there's not a
lot of them. And the fact they are Irr C to me means I'd have to
work extra hard to make sure they could get a charge off without
being uneasy (although that has a large part to do with what your
opponent brings to the table IMO). MI JLS, from my expierence at
least, screams out "Knights charge here!", and against well armed
loose order foot (Moogs and the like) they aren't going to last to
long.
On the other hand, the lack of any "heavy" Mounted in this list also
means (at least to me) that an opponent with Knights can ignore the
large close order foot blocks and aim for the Varangians. If theres
a way to use Close order foot to mask and protect Loose Order foot,
I'd like to learn it.

Personally, I like the larger block of Russ Spear with B in the back
rank. Used wisely, you could split fire and protect some of the
Varangians, and it's going to take at least two enemy units to do
anything to it.
Having played Late Romans the past year has shown me the limitations
of what JLS armed HC can do (which IMO is not a whole lot). It can
run off LI and LC pretty easily, and well used can often tie up a
couple of units, but anything with Armor and a L is going to eat them
for lunch, right?

What are your terrain picks when you use this army? And why choose
them?


I must say I do like these lists posts though, it's noce to see
everyone elses opinions on them.

Todd




--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, jmgarlic@a... wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> List seems pretty quiet on lists lately, so perhaps a good
time to
> seek some input on an army list I am considering taking to the
Republic of Texas
> Championships (ROTC) as the lone representative for the Warrior
delegation
> from the Republic of the Rio Grande.
>
> I have played Russ several times, but am always tweaking at list
since it has
> quite a few options and I am never quite satisfied. I often seem
to run into
> problems with not having enough units. Here's one list I have run
and am
> looking for input on (I seem to be solid on defense, but never have
enough
> offensive oomph). Of late I seem to encounter knights and more
knights every time I
> turn around. Last time I used this list, the Varangian Spearmen
were the
> target of choice for those knights
>
> 4E Varangian CinC LHI 2HCW Sh w/P and 3E Warriors Irr B LHI 2HCW
Sh
> 6E Varangian 3E Axemen Irr C LMI 2HCW Sh and 3E Spearmen Irr C LMI
JLS Sh
>
> 6E Varangian 3E Axemen Irr C LMI 2HCW Sh and 3E Spearmen Irr C LMI
JLS Sh
>
> 6E Varangian Spearmen Irr C MI JLS Sh
> 6E Varangian Spearmen Irr C MI JLS Sh
> 4E Varangian Archers Irr C LMI JLS B Sh w/det. 2E Beserkir Irr A
LMI 2SA
>
> 4E Russ SubGen HI LTS JLS Sh w/P, and Irr C 1E HI LTS JLS Sh,
2E MI LTS
> JLS Sh
> 9E Russ Irr C 6E MI LTS JLS Sh and 3E MI B
> 4E Druzhina Irr B 1/2 2HCW Sh and 1/2 JLS Sh
>
> 4E Pecheneg Ally HC JLS B Sh w/P and 3E Nobles Irr B HC JLS B Sh
> 4E Pecheneg Horse Archers Irr C B Sh
> 4E Pecheneg Horse Archers Irr C B Sh
> 4E Pecheneg Horse Archers Irr C B Sh
> 8E Pecheneg Wagon Defenders Irr C LMI B
> 8E Pecheneg Wagon Defenders Irr C LMI B
>
> Please note that in some lists with Pechenegs it says you must
purchase wagon
> laager to get defenders, but doesn't say that in Russ list. Not
sure if that
> was an oversight.
>
> One of these days I want to build an Early Russian (Aleksandr
Nevski) list,
> but it may require too much finesse for me at this time.
>
> Thanks for any input,
> John Garlic
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Greg Regets]

I also like the list posts Todd.

It seems like very useful data, even if you don't agree with it. Then
again, I coach football, and most football coaches are input junkies.

I like to keep in mind that of the last ten Super Bowl winners, you
can probably count five or so radically different offences, and five
or so radically different defenses.

There is more than one way to win at ANYTHING, and the practical
coach/player is the one that picks and chooses what is right for HIS
TEAM, rather than trying to do everything imaginable.

g


--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "thresh1642" <thresh1642@s...>
wrote:
>
> John,
>
> I think Greg's comments are really good.
>
> This is a "n00b's" perspective. I've finally settled on two armies
I
> am going to play for the next year or more, and am asking the same
> questions about the list I chose to run when looking over the one
you
> posted.
>
> Does it fit your style of play? I don't know what "style" you
favor,
> but for me it's a primary concern (although theres a great lesson
to
> be learned in recognizing that your style may not fit the army
you've
> chosen to play).
>
> Is it balanced? Does it have to be balanced? If it's not
balanced,
> can that be overcome or comepensated for? Does the list you have
fit
> your style of play?
> What is the purpose of each unit? Are there better units in the
list
> that can fulfill that same purpose? If yes, why not purchase them
> instead (Such as Bulgars over the Pechengs?)
>
> To me, the Varangians are the "strike" infantry, but there's not a
> lot of them. And the fact they are Irr C to me means I'd have to
> work extra hard to make sure they could get a charge off without
> being uneasy (although that has a large part to do with what your
> opponent brings to the table IMO). MI JLS, from my expierence at
> least, screams out "Knights charge here!", and against well armed
> loose order foot (Moogs and the like) they aren't going to last to
> long.
> On the other hand, the lack of any "heavy" Mounted in this list
also
> means (at least to me) that an opponent with Knights can ignore the
> large close order foot blocks and aim for the Varangians. If
theres
> a way to use Close order foot to mask and protect Loose Order foot,
> I'd like to learn it.
>
> Personally, I like the larger block of Russ Spear with B in the
back
> rank. Used wisely, you could split fire and protect some of the
> Varangians, and it's going to take at least two enemy units to do
> anything to it.
> Having played Late Romans the past year has shown me the
limitations
> of what JLS armed HC can do (which IMO is not a whole lot). It can
> run off LI and LC pretty easily, and well used can often tie up a
> couple of units, but anything with Armor and a L is going to eat
them
> for lunch, right?
>
> What are your terrain picks when you use this army? And why choose
> them?
>
>
> I must say I do like these lists posts though, it's noce to see
> everyone elses opinions on them.
>
> Todd
>
>
>
>
> --- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, jmgarlic@a... wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > List seems pretty quiet on lists lately, so perhaps a good
> time to
> > seek some input on an army list I am considering taking to the
> Republic of Texas
> > Championships (ROTC) as the lone representative for the Warrior
> delegation
> > from the Republic of the Rio Grande.
> >
> > I have played Russ several times, but am always tweaking at list
> since it has
> > quite a few options and I am never quite satisfied. I often seem
> to run into
> > problems with not having enough units. Here's one list I have
run
> and am
> > looking for input on (I seem to be solid on defense, but never
have
> enough
> > offensive oomph). Of late I seem to encounter knights and more
> knights every time I
> > turn around. Last time I used this list, the Varangian Spearmen
> were the
> > target of choice for those knights
> >
> > 4E Varangian CinC LHI 2HCW Sh w/P and 3E Warriors Irr B LHI
2HCW
> Sh
> > 6E Varangian 3E Axemen Irr C LMI 2HCW Sh and 3E Spearmen Irr C
LMI
> JLS Sh
> >
> > 6E Varangian 3E Axemen Irr C LMI 2HCW Sh and 3E Spearmen Irr C
LMI
> JLS Sh
> >
> > 6E Varangian Spearmen Irr C MI JLS Sh
> > 6E Varangian Spearmen Irr C MI JLS Sh
> > 4E Varangian Archers Irr C LMI JLS B Sh w/det. 2E Beserkir Irr
A
> LMI 2SA
> >
> > 4E Russ SubGen HI LTS JLS Sh w/P, and Irr C 1E HI LTS JLS Sh,
> 2E MI LTS
> > JLS Sh
> > 9E Russ Irr C 6E MI LTS JLS Sh and 3E MI B
> > 4E Druzhina Irr B 1/2 2HCW Sh and 1/2 JLS Sh
> >
> > 4E Pecheneg Ally HC JLS B Sh w/P and 3E Nobles Irr B HC JLS B
Sh
> > 4E Pecheneg Horse Archers Irr C B Sh
> > 4E Pecheneg Horse Archers Irr C B Sh
> > 4E Pecheneg Horse Archers Irr C B Sh
> > 8E Pecheneg Wagon Defenders Irr C LMI B
> > 8E Pecheneg Wagon Defenders Irr C LMI B
> >
> > Please note that in some lists with Pechenegs it says you must
> purchase wagon
> > laager to get defenders, but doesn't say that in Russ list. Not
> sure if that
> > was an oversight.
> >
> > One of these days I want to build an Early Russian (Aleksandr
> Nevski) list,
> > but it may require too much finesse for me at this time.
> >
> > Thanks for any input,
> > John Garlic
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Todd Schneider]

I found that out the hard way running Late Romans. I
tiried making them be something they weren't (A Shock
Cav Army for instance, than a "Shooting Army". I've
never been quite comforatble running them, but I won
the figs I use at the very first Warrior Tournament I
played in, and thelist has a mix of everyhting, which
forced me to learn the rules faster.

Right now I am playing cloose order Araucanians.
Lot's of Irr LTS, B, mostly close order and some loose
order.
No mounted. Everyhting marches on 2's.
It's kinda nice actually. So far I am 50% with it,
which is better than I was with the Late Romans.

Todd


--- Greg Regets <greg.regets@...> wrote:


---------------------------------

I also like the list posts Todd.

It seems like very useful data, even if you don't
agree with it. Then
again, I coach football, and most football coaches are
input junkies.

I like to keep in mind that of the last ten Super Bowl
winners, you
can probably count five or so radically different
offences, and five
or so radically different defenses.

There is more than one way to win at ANYTHING, and the
practical
coach/player is the one that picks and chooses what is
right for HIS
TEAM, rather than trying to do everything imaginable.

g


--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "thresh1642"
<thresh1642@s...>
wrote:
>
> John,
>
> I think Greg's comments are really good.
>
> This is a "n00b's" perspective. I've finally
settled on two armies
I
> am going to play for the next year or more, and am
asking the same
> questions about the list I chose to run when looking
over the one
you
> posted.
>
> Does it fit your style of play? I don't know what
"style" you
favor,
> but for me it's a primary concern (although theres a
great lesson
to
> be learned in recognizing that your style may not
fit the army
you've
> chosen to play).
>
> Is it balanced? Does it have to be balanced? If
it's not
balanced,
> can that be overcome or comepensated for? Does the
list you have
fit
> your style of play?
> What is the purpose of each unit? Are there better
units in the
list
> that can fulfill that same purpose? If yes, why not
purchase them
> instead (Such as Bulgars over the Pechengs?)
>
> To me, the Varangians are the "strike" infantry, but
there's not a
> lot of them. And the fact they are Irr C to me
means I'd have to
> work extra hard to make sure they could get a charge
off without
> being uneasy (although that has a large part to do
with what your
> opponent brings to the table IMO). MI JLS, from my
expierence at
> least, screams out "Knights charge here!", and
against well armed
> loose order foot (Moogs and the like) they aren't
going to last to
> long.
> On the other hand, the lack of any "heavy" Mounted
in this list
also
> means (at least to me) that an opponent with Knights
can ignore the
> large close order foot blocks and aim for the
Varangians. If
theres
> a way to use Close order foot to mask and protect
Loose Order foot,
> I'd like to learn it.
>
> Personally, I like the larger block of Russ Spear
with B in the
back
> rank. Used wisely, you could split fire and protect
some of the
> Varangians, and it's going to take at least two
enemy units to do
> anything to it.
> Having played Late Romans the past year has shown me
the
limitations
> of what JLS armed HC can do (which IMO is not a
whole lot). It can
> run off LI and LC pretty easily, and well used can
often tie up a
> couple of units, but anything with Armor and a L is
going to eat
them
> for lunch, right?
>
> What are your terrain picks when you use this army?
And why choose
> them?
>
>
> I must say I do like these lists posts though, it's
noce to see
> everyone elses opinions on them.
>
> Todd
>
>
>
>
> --- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, jmgarlic@a...
wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > List seems pretty quiet on lists lately, so
perhaps a good
> time to
> > seek some input on an army list I am considering
taking to the
> Republic of Texas
> > Championships (ROTC) as the lone representative
for the Warrior
> delegation
> > from the Republic of the Rio Grande.
> >
> > I have played Russ several times, but am always
tweaking at list
> since it has
> > quite a few options and I am never quite
satisfied. I often seem
> to run into
> > problems with not having enough units. Here's one
list I have
run
> and am
> > looking for input on (I seem to be solid on
defense, but never
have
> enough
> > offensive oomph). Of late I seem to encounter
knights and more
> knights every time I
> > turn around. Last time I used this list, the
Varangian Spearmen
> were the
> > target of choice for those knights
> >
> > 4E Varangian CinC LHI 2HCW Sh w/P and 3E
Warriors Irr B LHI
2HCW
> Sh
> > 6E Varangian 3E Axemen Irr C LMI 2HCW Sh and 3E
Spearmen Irr C
LMI
> JLS Sh
> >
> > 6E Varangian 3E Axemen Irr C LMI 2HCW Sh and 3E
Spearmen Irr C
LMI
> JLS Sh
> >
> > 6E Varangian Spearmen Irr C MI JLS Sh

> > 6E Varangian Spearmen Irr C MI JLS Sh

> > 4E Varangian Archers Irr C LMI JLS B Sh w/det.
2E Beserkir Irr
A
> LMI 2SA
> >
> > 4E Russ SubGen HI LTS JLS Sh w/P, and Irr C 1E
HI LTS JLS Sh,
> 2E MI LTS
> > JLS Sh
> > 9E Russ Irr C 6E MI LTS JLS Sh and 3E MI B

> > 4E Druzhina Irr B 1/2 2HCW Sh and 1/2 JLS Sh

> >
> > 4E Pecheneg Ally HC JLS B Sh w/P and 3E Nobles
Irr B HC JLS B
Sh
> > 4E Pecheneg Horse Archers Irr C B Sh

> > 4E Pecheneg Horse Archers Irr C B Sh

> > 4E Pecheneg Horse Archers Irr C B Sh

> > 8E Pecheneg Wagon Defenders Irr C LMI B

> > 8E Pecheneg Wagon Defenders Irr C LMI B

> >
> > Please note that in some lists with Pechenegs it
says you must
> purchase wagon
> > laager to get defenders, but doesn't say that in
Russ list. Not
> sure if that
> > was an oversight.
> >
> > One of these days I want to build an Early Russian
(Aleksandr
> Nevski) list,
> > but it may require too much finesse for me at this
time.
> >
> > Thanks for any input,
> > John Garlic
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
removed]




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[Greg Regets]

Well Todd ... the good news might be that you get better with lists
after a bit more experience ... the bad news might be that you don't
get all THAT much better. ;-)

At Fort Worth Wars, I trotted out my first new army in about six
years: Italian Condotta. Not that big a troop type departure from
what I'm used to, but an army with very different victory conditions.

I botched my list so bad, I felt like I spent the entire tournament
knee deep in mud.

At any rate ... thanks for the info. :-)

g



--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, Todd Schneider <thresh1642@s...>
wrote:
> I found that out the hard way running Late Romans. I
> tiried making them be something they weren't (A Shock
> Cav Army for instance, than a "Shooting Army". I've
> never been quite comforatble running them, but I won
> the figs I use at the very first Warrior Tournament I
> played in, and thelist has a mix of everyhting, which
> forced me to learn the rules faster.
>
> Right now I am playing cloose order Araucanians.
> Lot's of Irr LTS, B, mostly close order and some loose
> order.
> No mounted. Everyhting marches on 2's.
> It's kinda nice actually. So far I am 50% with it,
> which is better than I was with the Late Romans.
>
> Todd
>
>
> --- Greg Regets <greg.regets@g...> wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
> I also like the list posts Todd.
>
> It seems like very useful data, even if you don't
> agree with it. Then
> again, I coach football, and most football coaches are
> input junkies.
>
> I like to keep in mind that of the last ten Super Bowl
> winners, you
> can probably count five or so radically different
> offences, and five
> or so radically different defenses.
>
> There is more than one way to win at ANYTHING, and the
> practical
> coach/player is the one that picks and chooses what is
> right for HIS
> TEAM, rather than trying to do everything imaginable.
>
> g
>
>
> --- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "thresh1642"
> <thresh1642@s...>
> wrote:
> >
> > John,
> >
> > I think Greg's comments are really good.
> >
> > This is a "n00b's" perspective. I've finally
> settled on two armies
> I
> > am going to play for the next year or more, and am
> asking the same
> > questions about the list I chose to run when looking
> over the one
> you
> > posted.
> >
> > Does it fit your style of play? I don't know what
> "style" you
> favor,
> > but for me it's a primary concern (although theres a
> great lesson
> to
> > be learned in recognizing that your style may not
> fit the army
> you've
> > chosen to play).
> >
> > Is it balanced? Does it have to be balanced? If
> it's not
> balanced,
> > can that be overcome or comepensated for? Does the
> list you have
> fit
> > your style of play?
> > What is the purpose of each unit? Are there better
> units in the
> list
> > that can fulfill that same purpose? If yes, why not
> purchase them
> > instead (Such as Bulgars over the Pechengs?)
> >
> > To me, the Varangians are the "strike" infantry, but
> there's not a
> > lot of them. And the fact they are Irr C to me
> means I'd have to
> > work extra hard to make sure they could get a charge
> off without
> > being uneasy (although that has a large part to do
> with what your
> > opponent brings to the table IMO). MI JLS, from my
> expierence at
> > least, screams out "Knights charge here!", and
> against well armed
> > loose order foot (Moogs and the like) they aren't
> going to last to
> > long.
> > On the other hand, the lack of any "heavy" Mounted
> in this list
> also
> > means (at least to me) that an opponent with Knights
> can ignore the
> > large close order foot blocks and aim for the
> Varangians. If
> theres
> > a way to use Close order foot to mask and protect
> Loose Order foot,
> > I'd like to learn it.
> >
> > Personally, I like the larger block of Russ Spear
> with B in the
> back
> > rank. Used wisely, you could split fire and protect
> some of the
> > Varangians, and it's going to take at least two
> enemy units to do
> > anything to it.
> > Having played Late Romans the past year has shown me
> the
> limitations
> > of what JLS armed HC can do (which IMO is not a
> whole lot). It can
> > run off LI and LC pretty easily, and well used can
> often tie up a
> > couple of units, but anything with Armor and a L is
> going to eat
> them
> > for lunch, right?
> >
> > What are your terrain picks when you use this army?
> And why choose
> > them?
> >
> >
> > I must say I do like these lists posts though, it's
> noce to see
> > everyone elses opinions on them.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, jmgarlic@a...
> wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > List seems pretty quiet on lists lately, so
> perhaps a good
> > time to
> > > seek some input on an army list I am considering
> taking to the
> > Republic of Texas
> > > Championships (ROTC) as the lone representative
> for the Warrior
> > delegation
> > > from the Republic of the Rio Grande.
> > >
> > > I have played Russ several times, but am always
> tweaking at list
> > since it has
> > > quite a few options and I am never quite
> satisfied. I often seem
> > to run into
> > > problems with not having enough units. Here's one
> list I have
> run
> > and am
> > > looking for input on (I seem to be solid on
> defense, but never
> have
> > enough
> > > offensive oomph). Of late I seem to encounter
> knights and more
> > knights every time I
> > > turn around. Last time I used this list, the
> Varangian Spearmen
> > were the
> > > target of choice for those knights
> > >
> > > 4E Varangian CinC LHI 2HCW Sh w/P and 3E
> Warriors Irr B LHI
> 2HCW
> > Sh
> > > 6E Varangian 3E Axemen Irr C LMI 2HCW Sh and 3E
> Spearmen Irr C
> LMI
> > JLS Sh
> > >
> > > 6E Varangian 3E Axemen Irr C LMI 2HCW Sh and 3E
> Spearmen Irr C
> LMI
> > JLS Sh
> > >
> > > 6E Varangian Spearmen Irr C MI JLS Sh
>
> > > 6E Varangian Spearmen Irr C MI JLS Sh
>
> > > 4E Varangian Archers Irr C LMI JLS B Sh w/det.
> 2E Beserkir Irr
> A
> > LMI 2SA
> > >
> > > 4E Russ SubGen HI LTS JLS Sh w/P, and Irr C 1E
> HI LTS JLS Sh,
> > 2E MI LTS
> > > JLS Sh
> > > 9E Russ Irr C 6E MI LTS JLS Sh and 3E MI B
>
> > > 4E Druzhina Irr B 1/2 2HCW Sh and 1/2 JLS Sh
>
> > >
> > > 4E Pecheneg Ally HC JLS B Sh w/P and 3E Nobles
> Irr B HC JLS B
> Sh
> > > 4E Pecheneg Horse Archers Irr C B Sh
>
> > > 4E Pecheneg Horse Archers Irr C B Sh
>
> > > 4E Pecheneg Horse Archers Irr C B Sh
>
> > > 8E Pecheneg Wagon Defenders Irr C LMI B
>
> > > 8E Pecheneg Wagon Defenders Irr C LMI B
>
> > >
> > > Please note that in some lists with Pechenegs it
> says you must
> > purchase wagon
> > > laager to get defenders, but doesn't say that in
> Russ list. Not
> > sure if that
> > > was an oversight.
> > >
> > > One of these days I want to build an Early Russian
> (Aleksandr
> > Nevski) list,
> > > but it may require too much finesse for me at this
> time.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any input,
> > > John Garlic
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
>
>
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Subject: [WarriorRules] Re: Army List Input in Preparation for ROTC



I have this army in 15mm and 25mm. I would max my Russ spear, minimize the
varangians. Mix the varangian command in small units behind the Russ spear
to counter attack. Get rid of the Pechnegs and us Bulgars. The lancers are
much more useful and keep the LC Ds.
Success depends on how well you coordinate the push with your close order
spear and counterattacks with the Varangians while the Bulgars stretch the
flank.

When and where is ROTC? 15mm or 25mm? Could be worth a road trip.

Wes





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[John Garlic]

Todd, Ewan, Greg, Mark, Mark, and Kelly et al,

I have really enjoyed reading the comments so far. Russ have always been a
favorite of mine, and I am regularly tweaking at different lists. My first trip
to San Antonio to enter the ranks of Warrior gamers was using Russ, and I have
the figures to field everything allowed on their lists except for the wagon
laagers. My first favorite list is that which focuses on big blocks of Russ
with bows in the back and as many 4E units of Bulgar HC as I can buy. The list
I posted was one I've been playing with to try out new options.

I especially agree with the discussion about choosing an army you like that fits
your playing style. I tend to like armies with large quantities of infantry and
rarely have mounted heavier than HC. I then make my choice based on history
that interests me. Its nice to win, but I gotta have some history to turn me on
to an army. Just finished a bunch of reading on the Biblical era, hence the
debut and demis e of my Hebrews at FWW. Russ and Han Chinese have always been
my two favorites, although there is one more moving up. I'm on my third Stephen
Turnbull book and just about to drop the cash for some new lead.

Back to the list discussions. I enjoy reading about anyone's lists and tactics
just because it gives me ideas and adds more vicarious enjoyment to the hobby.
I especially like the tactical advice since it gives different perspectives on
units. No worries on bluntness Greg, I like straight shooting. Personally I
would like to see more discussions of games, lists, and tactics.

On the tactical side, another question for discusion, assuming anyone gets
through my longwindedness above. Any thoughts on the merits of 2HCW vs 2HCT for
arming loose order foot?

John Garlic


>I found that out the hard way running Late Romans.  I
>tiried making them be something they weren't (A Shock
>Cav Army  for instance, than a "Shooting Army".  I've
>never been quite comforatble running them, but I won
>the figs I use at the very first Warrior Tournament I
>played in, and thelist has a mix of everyhting, which
>forced me to learn the rules faster.
>
>Right now I am playing cloose order Araucanians.
>Lot's of Irr LTS, B, mostly close order and some loose
>order.
>No mounted.  Everyhting marches on 2's.
>It's kinda nice actually.  So far I am 50% with it,
>which is better than I was with the Late Romans.
>
>Todd
>
>
>--- Greg Regets <greg.regets@...> wrote:
>
>
>---------------------------------
>
>I also like the list posts Todd.
>
>It seems like very useful data, even if you don't
>agree with it. Then
>again, I coach football, and most football coaches are
>input junkies.
>
>I like to keep in mind that of the last ten Super Bowl
>winners, you
>can probably count five or so radically different
>offences, and five
>or so radically different defenses.
>
>There is more than one way to win at ANYTHING, and the
>practical
>coach/player is the one that picks and chooses what is
>right for HIS
>TEAM, rather than trying to do everything imaginable.
>
>g
>
>
>--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "thresh1642"
><thresh1642@s...>
>wrote:
>>
>> John,
>>
>> I think Greg's comments are really good.  
>>
>> This is a "n00b's" perspective.  I've finally
>settled on two armies
>I
>> am going to play for the next year or more, and am
>asking the same
>> questions about the list I chose to run when looking
>over the one
>you
>> posted.
>>
>> Does it fit your style of play?  I don't know what
>"style" you
>favor,
>> but for me it's a primary concern (although theres a
>great lesson
>to
>> be learned in recognizing that your style may not
>fit the army
>you've
>> chosen to play).
>>
>> Is it balanced?  Does it have to be balanced?  If
>it's not
>balanced,
>> can that be overcome or comepensated for?  Does the
>list you have
>fit
>> your style of play?
>> What is the purpose of each unit?  Are there better
>units in the
>list
>> that can fulfill that same purpose?  If yes, why not
>purchase them
>> instead (Such as Bulgars over the Pechengs?)
>>
>> To me, the Varangians are the "strike" infantry, but
>there's not a
>> lot of them.  And the fact they are Irr C to me
>means I'd have to
>> work extra hard to make sure they could get a charge
>off without
>> being uneasy (although that has a large part to do
>with what your
>> opponent brings to the table IMO).  MI JLS, from my
>expierence at
>> least, screams out "Knights charge here!", and
>against well armed
>> loose order foot (Moogs and the like) they aren't
>going to last to
>> long.
>> On the other hand, the lack of any "heavy" Mounted
>in this list
>also
>> means (at least to me) that an opponent with Knights
>can ignore the
>> large close order foot blocks and aim for the
>Varangians.  If
>theres
>> a way to use Close order foot to mask and protect
>Loose Order foot,
>> I'd like to learn it.
>>
>> Personally, I like the larger block of Russ Spear
>with B in the
>back
>> rank.  Used wisely, you could split fire and protect
>some of the
>> Varangians, and it's going to take at least two
>enemy units to do
>> anything to it.
>> Having played Late Romans the past year has shown me
>the
>limitations
>> of what JLS armed HC can do (which IMO is not a
>whole lot).  It can
>> run off LI and LC pretty easily, and well used can
>often tie up a
>> couple of units, but anything with Armor and a L is
>going to eat
>them
>> for lunch, right?
>>
>> What are your terrain picks when you use this army?
>And why choose
>> them?
>>
>>
>> I must say I do like these lists posts though, it's
>noce to see
>> everyone elses opinions on them.
>>
>> Todd
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, jmgarlic@a...
>wrote:
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> >        List seems pretty quiet on lists lately, so
>perhaps a good
>> time to
>> > seek some input on an army list I am considering
>taking to the
>> Republic of Texas
>> > Championships (ROTC) as the lone representative
>for the Warrior
>> delegation
>> > from the Republic of the Rio Grande.
>> >
>> > I have played Russ several times, but am always
>tweaking at list
>> since it has
>> > quite a few options and I am never quite
>satisfied.  I often seem
>> to run into
>> > problems with not having enough units.  Here's one
>list I have
>run
>> and am
>> > looking for input on (I seem to be solid on
>defense, but never
>have
>> enough
>> > offensive oomph).  Of late I seem to encounter
>knights and more
>> knights every time I
>> > turn around.  Last time I used this list, the
>Varangian Spearmen
>> were the
>> > target of choice for those knights  
>> >
>> > 4E  Varangian CinC  LHI 2HCW Sh w/P and 3E
>Warriors Irr B LHI
>2HCW
>> Sh
>> > 6E  Varangian 3E Axemen Irr C LMI 2HCW Sh and 3E
>Spearmen Irr C
>LMI
>> JLS Sh      
>> >    
>> > 6E  Varangian 3E Axemen Irr C LMI 2HCW Sh and 3E
>Spearmen Irr C
>LMI
>> JLS Sh      
>> >        
>> > 6E   Varangian Spearmen   Irr C MI JLS Sh        
>
>> > 6E   Varangian Spearmen   Irr C MI JLS Sh        
>
>> > 4E   Varangian Archers Irr C LMI JLS B Sh w/det.
>2E Beserkir Irr
>A
>> LMI 2SA
>> >
>> > 4E   Russ SubGen  HI LTS JLS Sh w/P, and Irr C 1E
>HI LTS JLS Sh,
>> 2E MI LTS
>> > JLS Sh            
>> > 9E   Russ Irr C  6E MI  LTS JLS Sh and 3E MI B    
>    
>> > 4E   Druzhina   Irr B   1/2 2HCW Sh and 1/2 JLS Sh
>        
>> >
>> > 4E   Pecheneg Ally  HC JLS B Sh w/P and 3E Nobles
>Irr B HC JLS B
>Sh
>> > 4E   Pecheneg Horse Archers  Irr C  B Sh          
>
>> > 4E   Pecheneg Horse Archers  Irr C  B Sh          
>
>> > 4E   Pecheneg Horse Archers  Irr C  B Sh          
>
>> > 8E   Pecheneg Wagon Defenders   Irr C LMI B      
>
>> > 8E   Pecheneg Wagon Defenders   Irr C LMI B      
>
>> >
>> > Please note that in some lists with Pechenegs it
>says you must
>> purchase wagon
>> > laager to get defenders, but doesn't say that in
>Russ list.  Not
>> sure if that
>> > was an oversight.
>> >
>> > One of these days I want to build an Early Russian
>(Aleksandr
>> Nevski) list,
>> > but it may require too much finesse for me at this
>time.
>> >
>> > Thanks for any input,
>> > John Garlic
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
>removed]
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Third Annual Republic of Texas
Ancients/Medievals National Championship Tournament

Saturday, November 20, 2004
Open Individual Tournament
Sunday, November 21, 2004
Individual Championship; Open Team Tournament

TEAM: Two-person, one-list per team member, chose your own team member or
pick one at the tournament
SCALE/RULES: 15mm; WarriorC
POINTS: 1600 (Open Individual Tournament), 1000 per team member (Open Team
Tournament)
TERRAIN: Rolled
ARMY SOURCE: Any FHE Army Book; NASAMW/WRG Sixth Edition Army lists that
has not been superseded. No other army books will be allowed.
ARMY LIST: Three lists if register both Warrior tournament and Millennium 7
by October 31, 2004; one if register after October 31, 2004. All Army Lists
must be from the same geographical location, book, and period. A copy of
your list(s) must be presented with registration fee.
COST: $5.00 (Pre-register by October 31, 2004)
$10.00 (After October 31, 2004)
Tournament cost does not include the Millennium 7 fee. For more information
on Millennium 7, please visit http://www.millenniumcon.com/.


TOURNAMENT LOCATION:
Millennium Convention
Red Lion Hotel
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Austin, TX 78752

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From: CHRIS BUMP [mailto:cncbump@...]
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 4:48 PM
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Re: Army List Input in Preparation for ROTC


Lots of venues in Austin. Where exactly?
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: Harlan D. Garrett
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 7:28 AM
Subject: RE: [WarriorRules] Re: Army List Input in Preparation for ROTC


Third Annual Republic of Texas is November 20 & 21; 1600 points; 15-mm;
Austin, TX

-----Original Message-----
From: lsu90 [mailto:lsu90@...]
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 5:41 AM
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WarriorRules] Re: Army List Input in Preparation for ROTC



I have this army in 15mm and 25mm. I would max my Russ spear, minimize
the
varangians. Mix the varangian command in small units behind the Russ
spear
to counter attack. Get rid of the Pechnegs and us Bulgars. The lancers
are
much more useful and keep the LC Ds.
Success depends on how well you coordinate the push with your close order
spear and counterattacks with the Varangians while the Bulgars stretch the
flank.

When and where is ROTC? 15mm or 25mm? Could be worth a road trip.

Wes





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[Todd Schneider]

Concerning 2HCT vs. 2 HCW, persoanlly, I'd go with the
2HCT. The -1 in combat your opponent gets when facing
you can often be the difference in winning a Hth
Combat.

Todd

--- jmgarlic@... wrote:


---------------------------------
Todd, Ewan, Greg, Mark, Mark, and Kelly et al,

I have really enjoyed reading the comments so far.
Russ have always been a favorite of mine, and I am
regularly tweaking at different lists. My first trip
to San Antonio to enter the ranks of Warrior gamers
was using Russ, and I have the figures to field
everything allowed on their lists except for the wagon
laagers. My first favorite list is that which focuses
on big blocks of Russ with bows in the back and as
many 4E units of Bulgar HC as I can buy. The list I
posted was one I've been playing with to try out new
options.

I especially agree with the discussion about choosing
an army you like that fits your playing style. I tend
to like armies with large quantities of infantry and
rarely have mounted heavier than HC. I then make my
choice based on history that interests me. Its nice
to win, but I gotta have some history to turn me on to
an army. Just finished a bunch of reading on the
Biblical era, hence the debut and demis e of my
Hebrews at FWW. Russ and Han Chinese have always been
my two favorites, although there is one more moving
up. I'm on my third Stephen Turnbull book and just
about to drop the cash for some new lead.

Back to the list discussions. I enjoy reading about
anyone's lists and tactics just because it gives me
ideas and adds more vicarious enjoyment to the hobby.
I especially like the tactical advice since it gives
different perspectives on units. No worries on
bluntness Greg, I like straight shooting. Personally
I would like to see more discussions of games, lists,
and tactics.

On the tactical side, another question for discusion,
assuming anyone gets through my longwindedness above.
Any thoughts on the merits of 2HCW vs 2HCT for arming
loose order foot?

John Garlic


>I found that out the hard way running Late Romans.  I
>tiried making them be something they weren't (A Shock
>Cav Army  for instance, than a "Shooting Army".  I've
>never been quite comforatble running them, but I won
>the figs I use at the very first Warrior Tournament I
>played in, and thelist has a mix of everyhting, which
>forced me to learn the rules faster.
>
>Right now I am playing cloose order Araucanians.
>Lot's of Irr LTS, B, mostly close order and some
loose
>order.
>No mounted.  Everyhting marches on 2's.
>It's kinda nice actually.  So far I am 50% with it,
>which is better than I was with the Late Romans.
>
>Todd
>
>
>--- Greg Regets <greg.regets@...> wrote:
>
>
>---------------------------------
>
>I also like the list posts Todd.
>
>It seems like very useful data, even if you don't
>agree with it. Then
>again, I coach football, and most football coaches
are
>input junkies.
>
>I like to keep in mind that of the last ten Super
Bowl
>winners, you
>can probably count five or so radically different
>offences, and five
>or so radically different defenses.
>
>There is more than one way to win at ANYTHING, and
the
>practical
>coach/player is the one that picks and chooses what
is
>right for HIS
>TEAM, rather than trying to do everything imaginable.
>
>g
>
>
>--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "thresh1642"
><thresh1642@s...>
>wrote:
>>
>> John,
>>
>> I think Greg's comments are really good.  
>>
>> This is a "n00b's" perspective.  I've finally
>settled on two armies
>I
>> am going to play for the next year or more, and am
>asking the same
>> questions about the list I chose to run when
looking
>over the one
>you
>> posted.
>>
>> Does it fit your style of play?  I don't know what
>"style" you
>favor,
>> but for me it's a primary concern (although theres
a
>great lesson
>to
>> be learned in recognizing that your style may not
>fit the army
>you've
>> chosen to play).
>>
>> Is it balanced?  Does it have to be balanced?  If
>it's not
>balanced,
>> can that be overcome or comepensated for?  Does the
>list you have
>fit
>> your style of play?
>> What is the purpose of each unit?  Are there better
>units in the
>list
>> that can fulfill that same purpose?  If yes, why
not
>purchase them
>> instead (Such as Bulgars over the Pechengs?)
>>
>> To me, the Varangians are the "strike" infantry,
but
>there's not a
>> lot of them.  And the fact they are Irr C to me
>means I'd have to
>> work extra hard to make sure they could get a
charge
>off without
>> being uneasy (although that has a large part to do
>with what your
>> opponent brings to the table IMO).  MI JLS, from my
>expierence at
>> least, screams out "Knights charge here!", and
>against well armed
>> loose order foot (Moogs and the like) they aren't
>going to last to
>> long.
>> On the other hand, the lack of any "heavy" Mounted
>in this list
>also
>> means (at least to me) that an opponent with
Knights
>can ignore the
>> large close order foot blocks and aim for the
>Varangians.  If
>theres
>> a way to use Close order foot to mask and protect
>Loose Order foot,
>> I'd like to learn it.
>>
>> Personally, I like the larger block of Russ Spear
>with B in the
>back
>> rank.  Used wisely, you could split fire and
protect
>some of the
>> Varangians, and it's going to take at least two
>enemy units to do
>> anything to it.
>> Having played Late Romans the past year has shown
me
>the
>limitations
>> of what JLS armed HC can do (which IMO is not a
>whole lot).  It can
>> run off LI and LC pretty easily, and well used can
>often tie up a
>> couple of units, but anything with Armor and a L is
>going to eat
>them
>> for lunch, right?
>>
>> What are your terrain picks when you use this army?

>And why choose
>> them?
>>
>>
>> I must say I do like these lists posts though, it's
>noce to see
>> everyone elses opinions on them.
>>
>> Todd
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, jmgarlic@a...
>wrote:
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> >        List seems pretty quiet on lists lately,
so
>perhaps a good
>> time to
>> > seek some input on an army list I am considering
>taking to the
>> Republic of Texas
>> > Championships (ROTC) as the lone representative
>for the Warrior
>> delegation
>> > from the Republic of the Rio Grande.
>> >
>> > I have played Russ several times, but am always
>tweaking at list
>> since it has
>> > quite a few options and I am never quite
>satisfied.  I often seem
>> to run into
>> > problems with not having enough units.  Here's
one
>list I have
>run
>> and am
>> > looking for input on (I seem to be solid on
>defense, but never
>have
>> enough
>> > offensive oomph).  Of late I seem to encounter
>knights and more
>> knights every time I
>> > turn around.  Last time I used this list, the
>Varangian Spearmen
>> were the
>> > target of choice for those knights  
>> >
>> > 4E  Varangian CinC  LHI 2HCW Sh w/P and 3E
>Warriors Irr B LHI
>2HCW
>> Sh
>> > 6E  Varangian 3E Axemen Irr C LMI 2HCW Sh and 3E
>Spearmen Irr C
>LMI
>> JLS Sh      
>> >    
>> > 6E  Varangian 3E Axemen Irr C LMI 2HCW Sh and 3E
>Spearmen Irr C
>LMI
>> JLS Sh      
>> >        
>> > 6E   Varangian Spearmen   Irr C MI JLS Sh        

>
>> > 6E   Varangian Spearmen   Irr C MI JLS Sh        

>
>> > 4E   Varangian Archers Irr C LMI JLS B Sh w/det.
>2E Beserkir Irr
>A
>> LMI 2SA
>> >
>> > 4E   Russ SubGen  HI LTS JLS Sh w/P, and Irr C 1E

>HI LTS JLS Sh,
>> 2E MI LTS
>> > JLS Sh            
>> > 9E   Russ Irr C  6E MI  LTS JLS Sh and 3E MI B  
 
>    
>> > 4E   Druzhina   Irr B   1/2 2HCW Sh and 1/2 JLS
Sh
>        
>> >
>> > 4E   Pecheneg Ally  HC JLS B Sh w/P and 3E Nobles
>Irr B HC JLS B
>Sh
>> > 4E   Pecheneg Horse Archers  Irr C  B Sh        
 
>
>> > 4E   Pecheneg Horse Archers  Irr C  B Sh        
 
>
>> > 4E   Pecheneg Horse Archers  Irr C  B Sh        
 
>
>> > 8E   Pecheneg Wagon Defenders   Irr C LMI B      

>
>> > 8E   Pecheneg Wagon Defenders   Irr C LMI B      

>
>> >
>> > Please note that in some lists with Pechenegs it
>says you must
>> purchase wagon
>> > laager to get defenders, but doesn't say that in
>Russ list.  Not
>> sure if that
>> > was an oversight.
>> >
>> > One of these days I want to build an Early
Russian
>(Aleksandr
>> Nevski) list,
>> > but it may require too much finesse for me at
this
>time.
>> >
>> > Thanks for any input,
>> > John Garlic
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
>removed]
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[John Garlic]

Hey All,

I am planning to attend and am looking for a teammate out there. BTW Harlan,
what time does the first round begin on Saturday?

Thanks,
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[Kelly Wilkinson]

Harlan,

It's looking like Charles, Steve and myself won't be coming after all.

kelly

"Harlan D. Garrett" <Harlan.D.Garrett@...> wrote:
Third Annual Republic of Texas
Ancients/Medievals National Championship Tournament

Saturday, November 20, 2004
Open Individual Tournament
Sunday, November 21, 2004
Individual Championship; Open Team Tournament

TEAM: Two-person, one-list per team member, chose your own team member or
pick one at the tournament
SCALE/RULES: 15mm; WarriorC
POINTS: 1600 (Open Individual Tournament), 1000 per team member (Open Team
Tournament)
TERRAIN: Rolled
ARMY SOURCE: Any FHE Army Book; NASAMW/WRG Sixth Edition Army lists that
has not been superseded. No other army books will be allowed.
ARMY LIST: Three lists if register both Warrior tournament and Millennium 7
by October 31, 2004; one if register after October 31, 2004. All Army Lists
must be from the same geographical location, book, and period. A copy of
your list(s) must be presented with registration fee.
COST: $5.00 (Pre-register by October 31, 2004)
$10.00 (After October 31, 2004)
Tournament cost does not include the Millennium 7 fee. For more information
on Millennium 7, please visit http://www.millenniumcon.com/.


TOURNAMENT LOCATION:
Millennium Convention
Red Lion Hotel
6121 I-35 North
Austin, TX 78752

POINT OF CONTACT:
Harlan Garrett
12727 Vista Del Norte Road #1118
San Antonio, TX 78216-8020
(210) 320-5142 (Home)
(210) 710-7966 (Cellular)
Harlan.D.Garrett@...

-----Original Message-----
From: CHRIS BUMP [mailto:cncbump@...]
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 4:48 PM
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Re: Army List Input in Preparation for ROTC


Lots of venues in Austin. Where exactly?
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: Harlan D. Garrett
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 7:28 AM
Subject: RE: [WarriorRules] Re: Army List Input in Preparation for ROTC


Third Annual Republic of Texas is November 20 & 21; 1600 points; 15-mm;
Austin, TX

-----Original Message-----
From: lsu90 [mailto:lsu90@...]
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 5:41 AM
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WarriorRules] Re: Army List Input in Preparation for ROTC



I have this army in 15mm and 25mm. I would max my Russ spear, minimize
the
varangians. Mix the varangian command in small units behind the Russ
spear
to counter attack. Get rid of the Pechnegs and us Bulgars. The lancers
are
much more useful and keep the LC Ds.
Success depends on how well you coordinate the push with your close order
spear and counterattacks with the Varangians while the Bulgars stretch the
flank.

When and where is ROTC? 15mm or 25mm? Could be worth a road trip.

Wes





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[Harlan Garrett]

Kelly,

Sorry to hear that-I was looking forward to my victory when I played you.
The San Antonio Guy and I will have a drink and a lap dance in your honor.

Harlan

-----Original Message-----
From: kelly wilkinson [mailto:jwilkinson62@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:00 PM
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [WarriorRules] Re: Army List Input in Preparation for ROTC


Harlan,

It's looking like Charles, Steve and myself won't be coming after all.

kelly

"Harlan D. Garrett" <Harlan.D.Garrett@...> wrote:
Third Annual Republic of Texas
Ancients/Medievals National Championship Tournament

Saturday, November 20, 2004
Open Individual Tournament
Sunday, November 21, 2004
Individual Championship; Open Team Tournament

TEAM: Two-person, one-list per team member, chose your own team member or
pick one at the tournament
SCALE/RULES: 15mm; WarriorC
POINTS: 1600 (Open Individual Tournament), 1000 per team member (Open Team
Tournament)
TERRAIN: Rolled
ARMY SOURCE: Any FHE Army Book; NASAMW/WRG Sixth Edition Army lists that
has not been superseded. No other army books will be allowed.
ARMY LIST: Three lists if register both Warrior tournament and Millennium 7
by October 31, 2004; one if register after October 31, 2004. All Army Lists
must be from the same geographical location, book, and period. A copy of
your list(s) must be presented with registration fee.
COST: $5.00 (Pre-register by October 31, 2004)
$10.00 (After October 31, 2004)
Tournament cost does not include the Millennium 7 fee. For more information
on Millennium 7, please visit http://www.millenniumcon.com/.


TOURNAMENT LOCATION:
Millennium Convention
Red Lion Hotel
6121 I-35 North
Austin, TX 78752

POINT OF CONTACT:
Harlan Garrett
12727 Vista Del Norte Road #1118
San Antonio, TX 78216-8020
(210) 320-5142 (Home)
(210) 710-7966 (Cellular)
Harlan.D.Garrett@...

-----Original Message-----
From: CHRIS BUMP [mailto:cncbump@...]
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 4:48 PM
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Re: Army List Input in Preparation for ROTC


Lots of venues in Austin. Where exactly?
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: Harlan D. Garrett
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 7:28 AM
Subject: RE: [WarriorRules] Re: Army List Input in Preparation for ROTC


Third Annual Republic of Texas is November 20 & 21; 1600 points; 15-mm;
Austin, TX

-----Original Message-----
From: lsu90 [mailto:lsu90@...]
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 5:41 AM
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WarriorRules] Re: Army List Input in Preparation for ROTC



I have this army in 15mm and 25mm. I would max my Russ spear, minimize
the
varangians. Mix the varangian command in small units behind the Russ
spear
to counter attack. Get rid of the Pechnegs and us Bulgars. The lancers
are
much more useful and keep the LC Ds.
Success depends on how well you coordinate the push with your close order
spear and counterattacks with the Varangians while the Bulgars stretch the
flank.

When and where is ROTC? 15mm or 25mm? Could be worth a road trip.

Wes





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[Harlan Garrett]

John,

The first die hit the table top at 8:30 not 8:31. Please remember that
registration starts at 8:00, although, I received your list and I plan to
review it this weekend.

Harlan

-----Original Message-----
From: jmgarlic@... [mailto:jmgarlic@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 7:03 PM
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Re: Army List Input in Preparation for ROTC


Hey All,

I am planning to attend and am looking for a teammate out there. BTW
Harlan, what time does the first round begin on Saturday?

Thanks,
John Garlic

> TEAM: Two-person, one-list per team member, chose your own team
> member or pick one at the tournament



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[Kelly Wilkinson]

Harlan,

Your a great guy. Sadly for you, I was even going to play an army lacking
flaming pigs, 3 feet of ditched palisades, and cheesey flaming arrows. Oh well,
I guess we'll have to wait til next time. Make sure the lap dancer is a
brunette, I seem to like'em that way! Actually, nowadays I'll tak'em most anyway
as long as they are human, female, and don't outweigh me! :)

kelly

"Harlan D. Garrett" <Harlan.D.Garrett@...> wrote:
Kelly,

Sorry to hear that-I was looking forward to my victory when I played you.
The San Antonio Guy and I will have a drink and a lap dance in your honor.

Harlan

-----Original Message-----
From: kelly wilkinson [mailto:jwilkinson62@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:00 PM
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [WarriorRules] Re: Army List Input in Preparation for ROTC


Harlan,

It's looking like Charles, Steve and myself won't be coming after all.

kelly

"Harlan D. Garrett" <Harlan.D.Garrett@...> wrote:
Third Annual Republic of Texas
Ancients/Medievals National Championship Tournament

Saturday, November 20, 2004
Open Individual Tournament
Sunday, November 21, 2004
Individual Championship; Open Team Tournament

TEAM: Two-person, one-list per team member, chose your own team member or
pick one at the tournament
SCALE/RULES: 15mm; WarriorC
POINTS: 1600 (Open Individual Tournament), 1000 per team member (Open Team
Tournament)
TERRAIN: Rolled
ARMY SOURCE: Any FHE Army Book; NASAMW/WRG Sixth Edition Army lists that
has not been superseded. No other army books will be allowed.
ARMY LIST: Three lists if register both Warrior tournament and Millennium 7
by October 31, 2004; one if register after October 31, 2004. All Army Lists
must be from the same geographical location, book, and period. A copy of
your list(s) must be presented with registration fee.
COST: $5.00 (Pre-register by October 31, 2004)
$10.00 (After October 31, 2004)
Tournament cost does not include the Millennium 7 fee. For more information
on Millennium 7, please visit http://www.millenniumcon.com/.


TOURNAMENT LOCATION:
Millennium Convention
Red Lion Hotel
6121 I-35 North
Austin, TX 78752

POINT OF CONTACT:
Harlan Garrett
12727 Vista Del Norte Road #1118
San Antonio, TX 78216-8020
(210) 320-5142 (Home)
(210) 710-7966 (Cellular)
Harlan.D.Garrett@...

-----Original Message-----
From: CHRIS BUMP [mailto:cncbump@...]
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 4:48 PM
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Re: Army List Input in Preparation for ROTC


Lots of venues in Austin. Where exactly?
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: Harlan D. Garrett
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 7:28 AM
Subject: RE: [WarriorRules] Re: Army List Input in Preparation for ROTC


Third Annual Republic of Texas is November 20 & 21; 1600 points; 15-mm;
Austin, TX

-----Original Message-----
From: lsu90 [mailto:lsu90@...]
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 5:41 AM
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WarriorRules] Re: Army List Input in Preparation for ROTC



I have this army in 15mm and 25mm. I would max my Russ spear, minimize
the
varangians. Mix the varangian command in small units behind the Russ
spear
to counter attack. Get rid of the Pechnegs and us Bulgars. The lancers
are
much more useful and keep the LC Ds.
Success depends on how well you coordinate the push with your close order
spear and counterattacks with the Varangians while the Bulgars stretch the
flank.

When and where is ROTC? 15mm or 25mm? Could be worth a road trip.

Wes





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